Bic Ban Appeal

[biclighter]

Your Character or Steam Name: Bic

Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:424709755

Your Discord ID#: bic.lighter

Reason for ban: RDM

Length of ban: 5 Days

Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): both tbh

Why should you be unbanned?:

I was under the impression that someone pointing a gun at you is means to shoot the person, but seemingly not in this situation. The guy in the clip claimed I was following him at first, which he said as I was literally walking away (not only that but you can see him walking around for a whole minute while I was tabbed out). After he said that, I was planning to go up to him and whisper something random but he pulled the gun almost immediately. If he would have said something like "get away or im gonna kill you" or some valid threat, I would have just walked away. The only reason I shot was because I thought he would shoot first (guy seems like a minge to me). He made an in game ticket and I tried to explain that he pointed a gun at me, which I thought at the time is a valid reason to shoot back, but Velocity said it was RDM baiting (something I've never done nor do I tolerate). I could see how he would think that, and I don't think his reasoning was bad either. On his side of things, I rdm'd the same guy a bit earlier before the ban bc he was saying some very disrespectful shit to me and people I know. This led to me making the mistake of shooting him for no RP reason. I don't have many recent RDM PO's (only a 2 or 3 in the past eight months) reflected by the short ban I received.

I would like to apologize for crashing out on this guy during my first interaction with him, it was unwarranted and out of the ordinary compared to my normal behavior. I should've left this guy alone but I really thought he was up to no good/minge-ing.

My reasoning for making this appeal is to see what other people think of my second interaction with him and see if it really was RDM. 

Additional Information (images, videos, etc): 

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mlz1Lv6wVcM4Cu6SD?invite=cr-MSx4S3IsODUyMTY2NTU&v=105 

[vel0city]

Hello, I'm the staff member who issued your punishment.

When the player initially reported you, I brought you into a sit after reviewing the evidence presented to me. During this, you openly admitted to committing RDM. I considered your honesty and cooperation, which is why I thanked you for your honesty and issued a note rather than a harsher punishment and ensured the affected player was compensated.

However, no more than five minutes later, the same player submitted another report, claiming that you had committed RDM again. Upon reviewing the clip, it was evident that you continued to follow the player despite receiving multiple warnings, which appeared to be an attempt to provoke or bait a reaction.

When questioned about this during the second sit, you stated that you were responding to a radio call and heading to your apartment. Based on the evidence available, I did not find this explanation to be credible, and reviewing your side of the situation which you previously claimed that you did not clip, it is obvious that you lied to me in the sit and you were not called on radio to your apartment.

Additionally, your record shows three prior punishments related to RDM, which further supports the decision to escalate the consequence in this instance. That being said, I do believe you were honest during the initial interaction, and it is possible that your actions were influenced by frustration after the earlier report made against you. While this does not justify the behavior, it provides some context to the situation, I would not have any objections to you being unbanned.

Best of luck on your appeal.

[Canadian-bacon]

Reminder that for bans of a finite length only those directly involved in the situation should reply. Permanent bans are where you may freely yap under.

Thread cleaned up.

[xDutchCat]

Hello, 

After reviewing the evidence this is not RDM Bait, you were minding your own business standing near the ATM, eventually wandering a different direction compared to the ticket maker when he asked you to stop following him, since he user gave you 3 warnings that you needed to stop following him after you were actually following him, it escalated properly with him aiming his gun at you, being an active threat towards you, sucks to be him though because he forgot he had no ammo in his magazine, as you can hear on the clip you provided aswell that **click** sound from his pistol that he had no ammo.

Though if you knowingly had an ooc issue/sit with that player before it's probably wise to stay away from them for a bit instead of possibly instigating a new conflict.

Regardless, we've decided to give you a chance by lifting the ban from your account and hopefully you will not let us down.

Your ban appeal has been reviewed and accepted.

The ban will be lifted from your account shortly. If it was deemed an invalid ban, it will also be removed from your record.