RDM Appeal

[shedletsky]

Your Character or Steam Name: Shedletsky

Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): STEAM_0:0:768503499

Your Discord ID#: apollo

Reason for ban: RDM

Length of ban: 3 Days

Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): Dispute

Why should you be unbanned? 

Hello staff team,

I am appealing the RDM ruling based on my understanding of the server rules according to your guy's rule of criminal-on-police violence and arrest escalation.

Prior to the officer's murder, both I and a friend were arrested on felony charges. This created an adversarial police RP event. During that interaction, I made an IC threat toward the officer involved, stating that I would retaliate. This was purely roleplay dialogue and not an immediate action or escalation. (Rather a warning) (In real life this would be the same case-keep in mind)

After being released, the same officer immediately began pursuing me again proclaiming I was trespassing and  insisting it was resisting arrest (He doesn't understand that once you are freed you spawn back on police property, I have a clip if needed). 
At that point, I had not initiated any violence, and the pursuit happened almost instantly after spawning. From my perspective, this felt like a continuation of the prior felony arrest scenario rather than a completely new and unrelated interaction.

Shortly afterward, another individual who was nearby with me and actively involved in the situation provided me with a gun and encouraged my retaliation not only for his friend, but me too, against the officer for arresting our friend on felony gun charges.

Why I Believed My Actions Were Within the Rules

Based on my understanding of the rules, I believed my actions were jutified. The rules stated that the  players may attack officers if they attempt to arrest or detain you or a member of your group when you know that arrest would result in aa felony charge. The officer had already arrested both me and my group member on felony charges and was continueing enforcement action immediately after release, which I reasonably believed could lead to further felony consequences.

Additionally, the rules allow defending group members if they are part of your faction or rolling with you. The motivation for my actions was directly tied to the arrest and incarceration of my group member for felony gun crimes. I believed this fell under defending a group member rather than a random or unjustified attack.

This was not a KOS situation or random violence. The officer involved had already been directly engaged with me and my group through felony arrests, and the situation felt like a continuation of an ongoing RP conflict rather than a fresh encounter with no context.

I was also aware that shooting police would make me PK-active. I did not expect immunity from consequences. My belief was simply that the engagement itself was allowed under the escalation rules as written.

Clarification on Intent

My intent was not to rule cherry pick. I acted based on my understanding that felony arrests justify escalation, defending group members is allowed, and this event was part of an ongoing RP conflict rather than a random act of violence.

If my interpretation of the rules was incorrect, I am fully willing to accept clarification and adjust how I handle similar situations in the future. I respectfully ask that the punishment be reconsidered given the overlap and ambiguity in the rules regarding felony arrests, group defense, and continued police pursuit.

Thanks staff team for your cooperation,

Shedletsky

[peeboy]

Hey there, I understand your intention wasn't to break the rules but that doesn't change the fact that you did. I took a ticket for you, and teleported to you to make sure you weren't busy with anything at the moment, and within 30 seconds of my teleporting you killed an officer without a valid reason. I don't disagree that this may be a gray area in the rules, but I consulted with other staff members and they agreed that your reason was not a valid one to kill a police officer.

Here's my clip for context: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/lNpfzPb3KIP9hJ1G3?invite=cr-MSxpaGksNDU3NzUwNDcx&v=27

[Rafy Maverick]

+1, but I know this guy in real life so I dont know if this counts

Edited 2 hours ago by Rafy Maverick
He was at my house but I am still going to see if my opinion matters

[shedletsky]

11 minutes ago, peeboy said:

Hey there, I understand your intention wasn't to break the rules but that doesn't change the fact that you did. I took a ticket for you, and teleported to you to make sure you weren't busy with anything at the moment, and within 30 seconds of my teleporting you killed an officer without a valid reason. I don't disagree that this may be a gray area in the rules, but I consulted with other staff members and they agreed that your reason was not a valid one to kill a police officer.

Here's my clip for context: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/lNpfzPb3KIP9hJ1G3?invite=cr-MSxpaGksNDU3NzUwNDcx&v=27

Hello! I felt I was being led on by the guy who instigated by providing me with the gun. In contrast to your point, I had mentioned to you during the sit I had killed him for the "felony reasons" listed above.

the guy also quite literally in that clip initiated a confrontation with the officer due to him pulling a gun outside of PD.

Not trying to argue but you showing the death does not equal context. All that clip shows is the kill, from your evidence there is quite literally no grounds for ban because prior to you recording that clip you didn't know the roleplay behind it.

Thanks a lot for the feedback