"PK Hunting" Ban Appeal

[Matador1812]

Your Character or Steam Name: Chadislav "Strannik" Krysha

Your SteamID (Click to retrieve):  https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199887634168/

Your Discord ID#: matador11812

Reason for ban: "PK hunting"

Length of ban: 1 week

Reason for appeal (dispute): PK hunt is completely subjective, I followed all of the rules that revolve around mugging.

Why should you be unbanned? According to Byte "There are protections that citizens have so they cannot be mugged" and "You must mug people for profit" Which is completely wrong. Also, we do not mug people assuming they are going to be PK'D we bring restraints to every mug and have tied people up in the past who comply (Clips attached.) We go after people who go into the city on alt-minge characters and spend the day ramming into people's cars or have zero intent to roleplay, citizens who do not minge or actually play the game do not get mugged. The server has a MASSIVE minge problem and nobody really does anything about it, on the rare occasion when a minge actually follows orders, we tie them up and tell them to stop being a jackass and usually take everything they have. Though most of them do not comply because they have no intent to actually roleplay a single thing. There has been NO rule break, Byte is just being power-trippy because he doesn't like me for various reasons. It's not MY fault that I give people plenty of time to comply with orders and they just refuse to do so.

Additional Information (images, videos, etc):    https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/lDafL4XrR9BHRVNaH?invite=cr-MSxLckssNDMzOTIyNjc5&v=300 - Mug & Restrained

 https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/lAYqYWdMc8miobJKx?invite=cr-MSw3Z2IsNDMzOTIyNjc5&v=62- Refused to follow orders, plenty of time given 

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/lHjGUtklP_EASACeL?invite=cr-MSx2QnEsNDMzOTIyNjc5&v=98- More than enough time given to comply, a whole ass minute

Edited 15 hours ago by Matador1812
clips didnt attach

[Bullets]

Brotato chip is mugging niggas with nothing on them

[Medinator]

says theres a minge problem but shows of clip of him talking about OOC characters, PKs of the person hes mugging to the said person hes mugging 

that aside i get the intentions and i agree there is an issue but this aint it chief 

Edited 15 hours ago by Medinator

[Coconut]

Do you mug on every char???? Swear this is your third char that seems to always mug. Cmon man at least try to not make it obvious

[Byte]

Hello, banning admin here!

Let's go through this point by point as best we can with your sentence structure.

1) "PK hunting is subjective" - While this may be true, you gave us every reason to believe you are PK hunting. First, while in the sit with me you stated multiple times that your faction needs to remove minges if no one else will. When asked to clarify if removing was killing you reassured me it was. Don't know if you were just unaware of the rules or if it was a Freudian slip, but that is PK hunting. Second, your own clip that you submitted for a PK which can be found here. Please go to 37 seconds. What did you mean by "Perfect. He ran." OH! That's right! You were putting him under FearRP for the sole reason of you wanting him to run so you could PK him. Further reinforced by you taking the time to organize his inventory while in  his pockets before only taking his radio. Finally, your own discord messages! Which can be found here. First, you gloat about another PK. Weird behavior for someone not hunting for PKs. When asked about it, you again admit you were just trying to PK them because you deemed them a minge. Finally, to add onto this circus, vigilantism is and has been against the rules for a very long time. You're criminals, act like one. If you have a problem with a minge follow proper escalation rules and send them to the hospital. If you can't be asked to do that, make a staff ticket. Staff will be the ones to actually deem if they're a problem. You are not staff.

2) "According to Byte "There are protections that citizens have so they cannot be mugged" and "You must mug people for profit" Which is completely wrong." - You're right! That is wrong, because it's not what I said. First, I said citizens have protections from criminal factions trying to just hunt them down and PK them. Second, you asked yourself is it okay to mug people for profits and I answered yes to your question. If you're going to twist words at best and lie at worst, at least make it make sense. Your own clips show you're not mugging for profit, so I'm curious why you even asked that but moving on to the protections. Yes, civilians have protections from criminal factions.
 

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Killing a non-associated civilian
■ You cannot PK a civilian for simply witnessing or reporting a crime, it's natural for normal civilians to call the Police or report incidents, while you may attack them for this it is not considered a valid PK reason. You may only PK a Civilian if they are actively collaborating with a government agency to take you down, this means they have signed some form of Affidavit or witness statement and/or have the intention of testifying against you or your faction in court. You may also threaten people to make sure they don’t snitch. Murder (PK) is a last resort.

Where does it say you can PK hunt them because they annoy you? Where does it say they can have faction leadership order their death for "general mingery."?

3)  "There has been NO rule break, Byte is just being power-trippy because he doesn't like me for various reasons." - There's been multiple rule breaks. Your own actions, words, clips, and discord messages all showcase it. Also to me not liking you, who are you? I genuinely have no recollection of any prior encounters with you so I'm sorry you have the view.

I hope you take this time to reflect on your actions and take it as an opportunity to grow into a contributing member of our community!

Edited 9 hours ago by Byte

[Matador1812]

5 hours ago, Byte said:

Hello, banning admin here!

Let's go through this point by point as best we can with your sentence structure.

1) "PK hunting is subjective" - While this may be true, you gave us every reason to believe you are PK hunting. First, while in the sit with me you stated multiple times that your faction needs to remove minges if no one else will. When asked to clarify if removing was killing you reassured me it was. Don't know if you were just unaware of the rules or if it was a Freudian slip, but that is PK hunting. Second, your own clip that you submitted for a PK which can be found here. Please go to 37 seconds. What did you mean by "Perfect. He ran." OH! That's right! You were putting him under FearRP for the sole reason of you wanting him to run so you could PK him. Further reinforced by you taking the time to organize his inventory while in  his pockets before only taking his radio. Finally, your own discord messages! Which can be found here. First, you gloat about another PK. Weird behavior for someone not hunting for PKs. When asked about it, you again admit you were just trying to PK them because you deemed them a minge. Finally, to add onto this circus, vigilantism is and has been against the rules for a very long time. You're criminals, act like one. If you have a problem with a minge follow proper escalation rules and send them to the hospital. If you can't be asked to do that, make a staff ticket. Staff will be the ones to actually deem if they're a problem. You are not staff.

2) "According to Byte "There are protections that citizens have so they cannot be mugged" and "You must mug people for profit" Which is completely wrong." - You're right! That is wrong, because it's not what I said. First, I said citizens have protections from criminal factions trying to just hunt them down and PK them. Second, you asked yourself is it okay to mug people for profits and I answered yes to your question. If you're going to twist words at best and lie at worst, at least make it make sense. Your own clips show you're not mugging for profit, so I'm curious why you even asked that but moving on to the protections. Yes, civilians have protections from criminal factions.
 

Where does it say you can PK hunt them because they annoy you? Where does it say they can have faction leadership order their death for "general mingery."?

3)  "There has been NO rule break, Byte is just being power-trippy because he doesn't like me for various reasons." - There's been multiple rule breaks. Your own actions, words, clips, and discord messages all showcase it. Also to me not liking you, who are you? I genuinely have no recollection of any prior encounters with you so I'm sorry you have the view.

I hope you take this time to reflect on your actions and take it as an opportunity to grow into a contributing member of our community!

I stated that I specifically MUG minges because they minge, that is correct, which isn't against the rules, the rules you are quoting is for writing orders, has nothing to do with mugging rules. Nobody is forcing people to not comply, plus if they have nothing, why run? I get giddy when they run because its fun to mop them up, but I have clearly shown that if they comply they will get restrained and items stolen, which is what mugs are for. The problem with the term PK hunting is that I have no control of if they abide by fear RP or not, I follow the cooldown rules, there's no mass-mugging, every PK I have gotten approved has followed the rules, I can mug just about anybody I like for any reason, mugging rules say nothing about whatever youre preaching.

 

Also nobody is ordering the mugging of people, every mug has been carried out by me personally and whoever wants to join along, nobody is "ordered" to come with on muggings, lmao.

[Matador1812]

8 hours ago, Coconut said:

Do you mug on every char???? Swear this is your third char that seems to always mug. Cmon man at least try to not make it obvious

Not on every Character, just my main Char

[Bullets]

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Edited 2 hours ago by Bullets

[Bullets]

Stop fricking alting bro!

[GlamourPunk]

1 hour ago, Bullets said:

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goodness gracious