Ban appeal

[Antonio Fontana]

Your Character or Steam Name: Antonio Fontana

Your SteamID (Click to retrieve):STEAM_0:0:155431577

Your Discord ID#:879053106229440512

Reason for ban: RDM LTARP

Length of ban:2d

Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): it was not rdm and i dint do ltarp i left cuz there was like 10 people on and no one was comming to the little israel deli

Why should you be unbanned? i didnt commit rdm because the guy was fighting with a another dude and i told them like 5 time to go figh somwhere else not in front of the deli and they we like o stupid jew and shit i fired a couple warning shots the guy who reported me killed the dude and i told him to leave and he was still saying shit like you stupid jew ye shoot me i dare you to and stuff so i shot him cuz he is a dickd head

Additional Information (images, videos, etc):https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/lFk4ji9tlyBMO0DuX?invite=cr-MSxVVmIsMTc0NzM0NDIz&v=254

[Toast]

I am the member of staff who issued the ban. Your own clip literally shows the whole situation, two dudes were fighting outside of Little Israel and you were basically inserting yourself into a situation that didn't concern you as none of the guys had dealt damage to you, and then as the guy is walking off he tells you to keep your mouth shut and then you pull out your gun and fire at him and then kill him. This is you failing to follow the escalation rules as the guy was an idle threat, not an active threat. I took the reporting player's ticket and he showed me a clip and then after checking logs, you had left a minute later after killing the guy and so you were banned.
 

"In regards to how a user is allowed to react to verbal threats.
There are two types of threats, an 'Active Threat' and a 'Idle threat'. Users may kill for an active threat but they may not kill for an idle threat.
The difference between the two is situational but will always pertain to if the person making the threats has a weapon in their hand.
For example, someone pointing a gun at you and threatening to kill you. This is an Active threat.
Someone saying they will kill/beat you in an argument or conversation. (Unarmed, weapon on safety etc) that is an idle threat.
You are allowed to react to an Active threat in that moment (Not later when the situation is over)."

 

[xDutchCat]

Hello,

As already mentioned, this was an improper escalation, and you were inserting yourself into a situation that was none of your concern. Why? You did not have either of their f3, and if they are on your property, ask them at least three times if they could fight somewhere else because they are trespassing on private property. So why did you bother to shoot, cause your attempt to scare them with a warning shot failed already. The escalation between these two ended after one of them dying and they even tried to walk off from the scene, he told you to shut up since you witnessed him committing a crime, eventhough he said 'fucking jew' immediately reaching for your pistol to shoot them is a failed escalation, if someone insulted you like that try to either melee or pistol whip so this looks like a properly initiated fight, but also do not bait for these scenarios so you can reach for your pistol so you can kill them.

Regarding the LTARP, we can assume you left to avoid roleplay if you killed someone, since this is part of an initiated rp scenario.
Do not LTAP/LTARP. If you initiate an RP situation or are in an Admin sit you may be punished if you decide to leave the game/switch characters to avoid punishment/roleplay. If you crash be sure to message the handling admin or type in the discord. Otherwise try and reconnect right away, admins may wait up to 5 to 10 minutes for someone to reconnect.
If you're unsure if it's LTAP/LTARP wait a minimum of 10 minutes before disconnecting or switching character.

Your ban appeal has been reviewed and denied.

We have determined this ban to be reasonable and/or justified.

Ensure you have read our Server Rules.

Edited 53 minutes ago by xDutchCat