Missy Miller PK Appeal

[eelzie]

Name of Character: Missy "Pea" Miller

Character ID: 175067

SteamID: STEAM_0:0:538408538

Your Discord ID#: eelzie

Date of PK: 28/08/25

Reason for PK: I was trying to clip someone being chased by the cops with my car, jokingly, and then the cop and the other person got stuck under my car (ragolled) which then caused them to act as if they were props rather than chars which forced my car to be stuck on top of them (unintended game mechanic - okyes) and then my car blew up killing all three of us (I don't know if it killed any others). I did NOT mean to kill anyone in this instance and I didn't know they would ragdoll beneath my car. I couldn't even move my car off of them or away from the people involved. 

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: Unintended VDM? I'm really unsure since nobody was supposed to be killed or blown up. I don't even know what rule was broken. 

If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kZrbV7XqjEWNm7FMN?invite=cr-MSxCSkksMTkzODE2ODE4&v=8 (this is all I've got).

[okyes]

Hello, PK'ing admin dude here,

So I was provided with this clip ->https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kZrd3G9VdEk896FxZ?invite=cr-MSx6RFcsMTcxMDE5MDQ1

Which shows you turning the corner and driving over ur friend and the cop. Idk how you can do it "jokingly" bc you legit said that you were "suicide bombing" and as you said in the sit you did it to save her, so im confused if you did it jokingly or not. I did ask for a second opinion on the clip and we came to the conclusion that when you ran the cop over you put yourself in fearrp, then when you died you died fully. Hopefully that clueded you in on my decision!

[eelzie]

12 minutes ago, okyes said:

Hello, PK'ing admin dude here,

So I was provided with this clip ->https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kZrd3G9VdEk896FxZ?invite=cr-MSx6RFcsMTcxMDE5MDQ1

Which shows you turning the corner and driving over ur friend and the cop. Idk how you can do it "jokingly" bc you legit said that you were "suicide bombing" and as you said in the sit you did it to save her, so im confused if you did it jokingly or not. I did ask for a second opinion on the clip and we came to the conclusion that when you ran the cop over you put yourself in fearrp, then when you died you died fully. Hopefully that clueded you in on my decision!

Like I said, it was a joke and I admit a bad joke. I didn't intentionally mean to kill everyone not even myself which is why I was very confused on the PK choice. Them getting stuck wasn't intentional either as you can I see I tried to go forwards or backwards but I couldn't. I don't get how you can claim 'unintentional game mechanic' and then say it's valid. Nobody intentionally gets their car stuck and I didn't either. 

In the other POV, you can see me exit the vehicle to surrender/apologise and the car sucks me under too and I die. Also, the person reporting who made the ticket WASN'T involved in this instance, so I seriously don't get how you can place this as a coroner's report. 

[XspeedboyX]

2 hours ago, okyes said:

Hello, PK'ing admin dude here,

So I was provided with this clip ->https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kZrd3G9VdEk896FxZ?invite=cr-MSx6RFcsMTcxMDE5MDQ1

Which shows you turning the corner and driving over ur friend and the cop. Idk how you can do it "jokingly" bc you legit said that you were "suicide bombing" and as you said in the sit you did it to save her, so im confused if you did it jokingly or not. I did ask for a second opinion on the clip and we came to the conclusion that when you ran the cop over you put yourself in fearrp, then when you died you died fully. Hopefully that clueded you in on my decision!

By that clip if you look from both POV's that would be VDM because the cops didnt kill her nor was it violent interaction due to her surrendering and not escalating the situation. so due to rules and the way it went out she should get banned for VDM and not a PK so that is a bad ruling with the fact that the man who made the pk wasnt even a cop.

[KingJewMonaclu]

Hello, this PK has been the foundation for some controversy it would seem.

 

Here is the ruling:

You were sitting idly in a car, and when 2 cops and their suspect who they were tazing lined up perfectly, you sped forward, hitting the officers, ragdolling them underneat your car, and the obvious result was your death. Now some may say that "gmod physics" shouldn't be applicable to PKs, however anybody who's played this game further than 5 minutes understands that hitting people with your car who are on foot will invariably kill you as well. You performed a violent action against officers, and died. Had you drowned, this would be a PK. Had you starved to death, this would have been a PK. Any death after starting a violent confrontation with police, is a full death, save actual server glitches (dying from running people over not applicable) or RDM.

To speak on the aspect of the reporting player not being an officer; it's an indifferent aspect of this. Any death that is a PK can be reported by any player, officer, bystander, or guy who does it for the love of the game for some reason. A PK is a PK no matter who reports it. There is no selective PKs. If there's evidence, and its valid, it is a PK.

This is a denial, the PK is just. 

 

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied.

We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified.

You may not re-appeal this PK.