Harry Belasco PK appeal

[Matador1812]

Name of Character: Harry Trumader Belasco

Character ID:

SteamID: 76561199887634168

Your Discord ID#:  matador11812

Date of PK: 8/16/2025

Reason for PK: Mugging

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: It was a fail-mug, I cannot be mugged in-front of NPCS.

If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines:  https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kUwM8GcmxVnsGzGZG?invite=cr-MSw2cUMsNDMzOTIyNjc5&v=45

[yummekoo]

Hi Harry, I was the admin who approved of your PK. I checked the place where you were and you were in a red zone when he decided to mug you. RIGHT AS he told you to put your hands up and you walked out to the green zone saying "You cant mug me i'm in a public area!" I actually referred to the Danny Costava PK because it was similar circumstances and he was mugged IN THE RED ZONE but walked out into the green zone. I watched the clip provided to me around 10 times and you were mugged INSIDE the red area but immediately ran into the green. You being in the red and him initiating it IN the red made me approve of your PK. 

Edited 5 hours ago by yummekoo
accidentally mistyped

[Canadian-bacon]

Do not reply to an appeal unless you were directly involved in the situation. Cleaned up messages.

[Matador1812]

32 minutes ago, yummekoo said:

Hi Harry, I was the admin who approved of your PK. I checked the place where you were and you were in a red zone when he decided to mug you. RIGHT AS he told you to put your hands up and you walked out to the green zone saying "You cant mug me i'm in a public area!" I actually referred to the Danny Costava PK because it was similar circumstances and he was mugged IN THE RED ZONE but walked out into the green zone. I watched the clip provided to me around 10 times and you were mugged INSIDE the red area but immediately ran into the green. You being in the red and him initiating it IN the red made me approve of your PK. 

Line of sight still exists between me and the NPC regardless of the map. This is how greenzones and NPCS work everywhere else, why not here? he should have closed to door or had somebody assist him, it was all around an extremely lazy mug attempt.

[yummekoo]

You and Danny C. got mugged in THE EXACT same location and both ran out to the green area. You both were behind the NPCs in a red area and decided to run into the green zone and got killed. I saw these similarities and decided to approve of your PK.

[Matador1812]

Are you trying to have a realistic server or not??? what is the point of having line of sight NPCS if you're not even gonna obey it. I was clearly in line of sight of the NPC I never left that door-way, why have that rule if you'll disregard it.

[yummekoo]

1 hour ago, Matador1812 said:

Are you trying to have a realistic server or not??? what is the point of having line of sight NPCS if you're not even gonna obey it. I was clearly in line of sight of the NPC I never left that door-way, why have that rule if you'll disregard it.

Hey so you were inside of the red zone and then went into the green zone to try and avoid the PK/mugging. Someone else approved of a PK exactly like how you died and his appeal got denied. Don't get all mad at me and say "Are you trying to have a realistic server or not???" 

[Matador1812]

Just now, yummekoo said:

Hey so you were inside of the red zone and then went into the green zone to try and avoid the PK/mugging. Someone else approved of a PK exactly like how you died and his appeal got denied. Don't get all mad at me and say "Are you trying to have a realistic server or not???" 

I don't really give a flying fuck if you denied somebody else's appeal, this is about server rules, you have a rule that you cannot mug in line of sight of NPCS, THERE IS AN NPC IN LINE OF SIGHT OF ME THE ENTIRE TIME! What is the point of the "NPC Line of sight" rule if I clearly was in their line of sight. You should make the rule way more clear if you're just gonna disregard it entirely.

[Matador1812]

11 minutes ago, yummekoo said:

Hey so you were inside of the red zone and then went into the green zone to try and avoid the PK/mugging. Someone else approved of a PK exactly like how you died and his appeal got denied. Don't get all mad at me and say "Are you trying to have a realistic server or not???" 

"When mugging or initiating a mug; Ensure there is no one else around, you may not start mugs infront of witnesses."  

"You may not mug infront of an NPC regardless of this map."

"Unless there is an NPC or witness present all rooftops & sewers are RED muggable areas." 
This line right here debunks this entire thing, There was an NPC present so therefor the area cannot be muggable.

Edited 2 hours ago by Matador1812

[Medinator]

Danny costava from the grave here and I know no messages unless ur involved BUTTTT 

this is legit 1:1 my situation unfortunately they don’t count the backs of NPCs as “direct line of sight” once you step inside that red zone and they got your ass it’s locked in

hell even for my situation I ran infront of the NPCs after they declared the mug but it was still in vain 

I wish you best of luck on this appeal you can look back on mine if it gives any more references and help with what was discussed there but unfortunately it’s a really unlucky situation 

Edited 2 hours ago by Medinator

[yummekoo]

1 hour ago, Matador1812 said:

I don't really give a flying fuck if you denied somebody else's appeal, this is about server rules, you have a rule that you cannot mug in line of sight of NPCS, THERE IS AN NPC IN LINE OF SIGHT OF ME THE ENTIRE TIME! What is the point of the "NPC Line of sight" rule if I clearly was in their line of sight. You should make the rule way more clear if you're just gonna disregard it entirely.

I didn't deny his appeal, someone else denied it. I told you that I referenced someone elses pk which was exactly like yours. You were in a red zone, got mugged where u stood but ran out to the green area to try and avoid the mugging.

[Matador1812]

24 minutes ago, yummekoo said:

I didn't deny his appeal, someone else denied it. I told you that I referenced someone elses pk which was exactly like yours. You were in a red zone, got mugged where u stood but ran out to the green area to try and avoid the mugging.

There are several quotes on the map you guys reference that explains greenzones and redzones, yes the area is a red-zone HOWEVER there is an NPC nearby which your map literally explains that even though its a red-zone, you can't mug anybody.

[JJ_]

Hello,

First off, for future reference mugging in the clothing store IS allowed. But, in this specific situation you were in close proximity to the NPCs, within line of sight. Even standing behind them like you were in this situation counts. Had you been more inside the backroom and had line of sight then this PK would stand. This is not the case.

The situation is distinctly unique and is not a "1:1" of a different PK with an entirely different set of circumstances, the only similarity being the general location. Whereas here the individual isn't properly put into fear rp until they are directly behind the NPCs.

Do note that if you were placed under fear rp and then ran infront of them this PK would also stand, this is what happened in the referenced previous PK by the responding admin.

[JJ_]

Your appeal has been reviewed and accepted.

Your character has been reinstated and can be used again.