1 week ban appeal

[Santana]

 

Your Character or Steam Name: Carl "Quiet" Sanders

Your SteamID (Click to retrieve):  76561199186510140

Your Discord ID#: Naxalcirke

Reason for ban: Fail Mug

Length of ban: 1 week

Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): Dispute

Why should you be unbanned? This situation for the "Fail Mug" was handled by "Byte" so he already knows what specifically happened. I was banned for a week for "Participating" in the fail mug. I am grateful that Byte resolved the situation much quicker than I originally thought, he handed me a ban for a week in his words. "The reasoning for the length is again you have been active for a week and you already have 5 notes and a ban"  Which fair enough, I was banned for RDM earlier in the week, it was my bad, it wasn't a case of me walking up to the man and unloading on him but it's not relevant, honest fuck-up. I am not entirely sure what the notes are for, I've only ever been in an admin sit twice from my memory. Though the situation with the mugging was 5 of my faction members started to mug somebody and they called me on radio to assist them, a minute goes by and I finally show up and participated all of about 10 seconds until we were gunned down by other individuals. According to the moderator it was a fail mug but why am I getting caught in the cross-fire, I didn't initiate it and nothing would have changed me being there or not. A week ban for participating in a "Fail mug" for 10 seconds is absolutely ludicrous I fail to see how that's justified in the slightest, a day or two is more understandable, but a week? I'd get a lesser punishment for RDM or Minging. 

Additional Information (images, videos, etc): https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kSfAsoO2uYySoGGPO?invite=cr-MSxZSUQsMjI2MTQ2Njg3&v=38

 

Im the one in red behind the video POV at 31-32 seconds, clearly I barely participated and wasn't there for the initiating of the mug

 

Im the one in red behind the video POV at 31-32 seconds, clearly I barely participated and wasn't there for the initiating of the mug

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Santana
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[Byte]

Hello! Yes, I am the banning admin and the one that was primarily handling this situation.

As you already quoted me you know my reasoning for the ban length. You chose to however leave out what we had already discussed about you being involved. Initiating the mugging or participating in the mugging is the same thing. They may have radio'ed, but you made the decision to join in on a serious RP scenario that you had zero context for. Another quote from that same ticket you left out is "Ignorance does not grant you immunity from your actions." So, between you being involved in a fail mugging, a more serious rule break with much more serious consequences, and your repeated pattern of not respecting the rules or RP environment of our server you were handed a one week ban to reflect on your actions. Not just the fail mug, but your repeated rule breaks in your first week active on the server after a ban almost two years ago. We have majority of our players go years without a single note. In the span of one week you have collected five notes and a ban.

Also, yes, you would have received a lesser ban for RDM or minging. Those are much lesser offenses with much less impact on RP. Fail muggings potentially to PKs, which you now know very well. In this instance it has also lead to RP needing to be entirely voided so again much larger impact from your actions. As I told you in the ticket and will tell you now, I hope you take this time to understand our rules and reflect on the recent choices you have been making on the server.

[Santana]

32 minutes ago, Byte said:

Hello! Yes, I am the banning admin and the one that was primarily handling this situation.

As you already quoted me you know my reasoning for the ban length. You chose to however leave out what we had already discussed about you being involved. Initiating the mugging or participating in the mugging is the same thing. They may have radio'ed, but you made the decision to join in on a serious RP scenario that you had zero context for. Another quote from that same ticket you left out is "Ignorance does not grant you immunity from your actions." So, between you being involved in a fail mugging, a more serious rule break with much more serious consequences, and your repeated pattern of not respecting the rules or RP environment of our server you were handed a one week ban to reflect on your actions. Not just the fail mug, but your repeated rule breaks in your first week active on the server after a ban almost two years ago. We have majority of our players go years without a single note. In the span of one week you have collected five notes and a ban.

Also, yes, you would have received a lesser ban for RDM or minging. Those are much lesser offenses with much less impact on RP. Fail muggings potentially to PKs, which you now know very well. In this instance it has also lead to RP needing to be entirely voided so again much larger impact from your actions. As I told you in the ticket and will tell you now, I hope you take this time to understand our rules and reflect on the recent choices you have been making on the server.

LOL, so you ADMIT that RDMing somebody is not as bad as barely being involved in a mugging? Your logic is absolute insanity you're just begging for a reason to ban me at this point. What an absolute joke! Especially a week at that, your reasoning is completely brittle and I see absolutely zero reason on why a punishment was given out other than "I felt like it"

[Santana]

44 minutes ago, Byte said:

Hello! Yes, I am the banning admin and the one that was primarily handling this situation.

As you already quoted me you know my reasoning for the ban length. You chose to however leave out what we had already discussed about you being involved. Initiating the mugging or participating in the mugging is the same thing. They may have radio'ed, but you made the decision to join in on a serious RP scenario that you had zero context for. Another quote from that same ticket you left out is "Ignorance does not grant you immunity from your actions." So, between you being involved in a fail mugging, a more serious rule break with much more serious consequences, and your repeated pattern of not respecting the rules or RP environment of our server you were handed a one week ban to reflect on your actions. Not just the fail mug, but your repeated rule breaks in your first week active on the server after a ban almost two years ago. We have majority of our players go years without a single note. In the span of one week you have collected five notes and a ban.

Also, yes, you would have received a lesser ban for RDM or minging. Those are much lesser offenses with much less impact on RP. Fail muggings potentially to PKs, which you now know very well. In this instance it has also lead to RP needing to be entirely voided so again much larger impact from your actions. As I told you in the ticket and will tell you now, I hope you take this time to understand our rules and reflect on the recent choices you have been making on the server.

Not only that but you did absolutely nothing about the meta-gaming which is clearly a worse offense. Using my "previous notes" to justify a ban is retarded as well, none of them have anything to do with mugging and if it warranted it I would've been banned from those, but I wasn't. You should address the situation and only the situation not irrelevant things to it. It is not my job to tell the higher-ups in the faction how to do the mugging, that's their discretion and YOU should know this, so treating some low-level newbie to the same standard as someone who is a diverge veteran is also complete insanity. You know just as well as I do because you seen several clips I was hardly even involved in the situation so comparing the two is retarded. I appreciate your swiftness to address the situation but I think your punishments are completely unwarranted because I did nothing to directly hinder roleplay, if you want to chap somebodies ass you should chap the ass of the higher up who gave the order, not me.