Acqwon Matthews Posted Monday at 10:57 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:57 PM Name of Character: Acqwon "LA" Matthews SteamID: STEAM_0:0:155537071 Your Discord ID#: 592873246496522250 Date of PK: 07/28/2025 Reason for PK: I was killed during a PK by Detective Martin Riggs for killing a target and he claims I shot him in the crossfire. Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: 1. Martin Riggs "The person who killed me" used OOC terminology In character. (Clip1) ■ Using OOC means of communication to perform a PK will invalidate it / the evidence for a PK. ■ Using OOC terms over Mic, (Such as yelling "thats a pk, thats a pk!" After killing someone) may void the PK entirely. Remain in character at all times. 2. I was told by a faction member that detectives are not allowed to PK somebody while not in uniform and that Canadian voided a PK due to that. 3. Martin Riggs claims I shot him in the crossfire, I have a clip that shows otherwise. He shot me while i was unarmed. I never harmed Martin Riggs, my gun was already concealed and he had to take his weapon off safety to even shoot which is all heard on the video. (Clip2) ■ Initiating a shootout or violent confrontation with Police can lead to a PK. Killing or attacking an Officer after initiating a violent confrontation leaves you PK active from officers for about 15 minutes. Generally we want people to not immediately go for the gun when dealing with Police, as a result if you escalate a situation to a shootout and lose you can be punished via PK as your character was killed. This does not apply if it is the Police that fired first or escalated to a shootout. 4. A staff member by the name of Toast told us the PK was active beforehand and the reason it made it to this point is because he didn't check a screenshot before giving the green light and when I acted on it there was no PK. I have in the clip mentioned everything from when Toast gave us the go ahead to when the target was killed and no PK body was there. (Clip3) If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: (Clip1) Martin Riggs OOC Terminology ICLY After PK - Clipped with Medal.tv (Clip2) https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kMJleI84wa4GifpdS?invite=cr-MSxNM2osMTk3OTk1MTU2&v=17 (Clip3) https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kMJgERg2uKlXqD5Ky?invite=cr-MSxtTG8sMTk3OTk1MTU2&v=215 1 1 1 Link to comment
MrlogicNova Posted Monday at 10:59 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:59 PM "For the laughs does anyone have a clip of that" From Cop after PK BTW 2 Link to comment
Drunken Posted Monday at 11:08 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:08 PM So i was the PK'ing cop, i asked for a clip after the PK cause i didnt have one. What is not mentioned is after the PK itself, we go over to the Colombo gun store when LogicNova proceeds to scream at us with OOC stuff saying its toasts fault. Additionally after you were killed from the short bit in the clip you was still radioing your faction was to the PK. The reason for the original attempt being invalid was due to the PK order/ screenshot not being correct, this was told to Logic by toast in a staff sit, it would of been logic's job to pass that information on to the other people he was working with. And in terms of the argument that i broke ROE of sorts, you just gunned a man down infront of my eyes. Tennessee V Gardner takes effect which means i can shoot you. In my opinion @Acqwon Matthewsits just a case of really bad timing and placement for you mate. No hard feelings against u. But Logic needs to grow up and stop crying. Link to comment
Drunken Posted Monday at 11:09 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:09 PM Sorry to go on, the argument of a detective in uniform is pointless. Whoever told u that needs to learn to read. We can PK you unless we are undercover or off duty. Those are the only two situations where we cant PK you. Link to comment
MrlogicNova Posted Monday at 11:10 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:10 PM 1 minute ago, Drunken said: In my opinion @Acqwon Matthewsits just a case of really bad timing and placement for you mate. No hard feelings against u. But Logic needs to grow up and stop crying. "Anyone got a clip of that for the laughs" Martin Riggs after PK - 2025 2 Link to comment
Drunken Posted Monday at 11:11 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:11 PM 1 minute ago, MrlogicNova said: "Anyone got a clip of that for the laughs" Martin Riggs after PK - 2025 This is not the place if you want to help on his PK appeal. Your acting tough for someone who has cried because you we're getting a felony. 2 Link to comment
Toast Posted Monday at 11:16 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:16 PM (edited) I am the member of staff that oversaw both PKs. The Colombo one & yours. First of all, when I took the Colombo PK, I didn't check the screenshot properly. I glanced over it, saw the PK reason, and logged it. When I logged the PK, I noticed that whoever took the screenshot didn’t include the F3 of the person giving the orders, which is required. I then disabled the PK status of the guy involved in the Colombo hit, pulled one of your guys into a sit to tell him to redo your orders, and he radioed in telling you guys not to do anything. As he did, Acqwon killed the guy who was awaiting orders. I then set the guy active again after receiving a proper screenshot of the orders. You found him at the park and gunned him down instantly, while Detective Martin Riggs was in the area. He then gunned you down right after. Maybe you should consider doing a safer mob hit and not killing people in front of cops in the future. I spoke to UA, who said I was okay to approve the PK on Acqwon. Edited Tuesday at 02:18 PM by Toast 1 1 Link to comment
Acqwon Matthews Posted Monday at 11:22 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 11:22 PM (edited) In the video, there is nothing coming over radio saying orders weren't approved, if you watched the video you'd see that. I took your word specifically saying he is active which is in the clip and acted accordingly. Since when were cops supposed to shoot a man for having an altercation? There was no attempt to arrest, nor did I harm the man in any way shape or form which is also in the clip. Maybe in the future you shouldn't give active orders without taking the proper steps beforehand... Edited Monday at 11:26 PM by Acqwon Matthews 2 Link to comment
Toast Posted Monday at 11:28 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:28 PM 3 minutes ago, Acqwon Matthews said: In the video, there is nothing coming over radio saying orders weren't approved, if you watched the video you'd see that. I took your word specifically saying he is active which is in the clip and acted accordingly. Since when were cops supposed to shoot a man for having an altercation? There was no attempt to arrest, nor did I harm the man in any way shape or form which is also in the clip. Maybe in the future you shouldn't give active orders without taking the proper steps beforehand... This screenshot is right when I pulled Logic to tell him the hit was off until the screenshot was rectified. They told you and the like four others in the room to change to the frequency they were going to use to communicate during the hit. If you weren’t on it, then that is your problem, not mine. Link to comment
MrlogicNova Posted Monday at 11:29 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:29 PM Just now, Toast said: This screenshot is right when I pulled Logic to tell him the hit was off until the screenshot was rectified. They told you and the like four others in the room to change to the frequency they were going to use to communicate during the hit. If you weren’t on it, then that is your problem, not mine. Im guessing i was either not on the right frequency or my radio was bugged ngl 1 1 Link to comment
Acqwon Matthews Posted Monday at 11:33 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 11:33 PM That is not my fault, in the video you can hear and see me change my frequency to the correct one as I'm being told. The guy you are saying you pulled is telling you he had a problem. Instead of trying to cover your tracks on everything, do your job the way it was intended and actually review the evidence I am handing to you in this forum. 3 1 Link to comment
Ashen Soul Posted Tuesday at 12:38 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:38 AM The fact that the admin messed up the hit in the first place is an issue within itself. For detective Riggs to then break character and ask for a clip in a clearly OOC conversation while standing on top of the body is a clear violation of using OOC terms after a PK. There should be no discussion that this has been broken and Acqwon Matthews should have his PK reversed immediately. 2 4 2 Link to comment
Ashen Soul Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago The amount of time it's taken for this PK appeal to go through is ridiculous. The invalidating evidence is plainly there. Riggs used OOC terminology immediately after PKing him, "Does anyone have a clip of that" while laughing regardless of you're reason for saying it invalidates the PK. Unless there is another set of rules that say a cop is exempt from this rule, there should be no reason this is taking so long. The fact that every other PK appeal request has been gone through and this one hasn't looks simply like it's being skipped intentionally. 1 1 Link to comment
Boomroasted Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. As a staff team, we apologize for the length of time it has taken for a decision to be made on this appeal, we have been discussing the ins and outs of this appeal and have ultimately come to an agreement to deny this appeal. The use of the rule you are trying to quote, OOC means of communication will invalidate it, does not apply in this situation. The key word in the rule you are quoting is MAY, and this rule is generally used for gloating during and after a pk. The main rule that we kept coming back to is found under the PK Reasons & Rules section and states the following: If you are attempting to PK someone, during the hit you are also PK active. Meaning if you're attempting to kill or have just killed the victim but you were also killed you are subject to a PK, so don’t be reckless when carrying out these serious murders. This includes being killed by a third party who is acting in defense of the victim, or a police officer trying to apprehend you, moments after the hit itself takes place. As the hitman your goal is to carry out the hit and escape the area to hide out for next 15 minutes. [You may not disconnect until this minimum timer has expired. You will be PK'ed for LTAP'ing to avoid death] Why yes there can be a claim that Toast had initially accepted the pk but he gave the faction time to amend the orders given, this did not affect how you performed the PK, but more delayed the timing of the pk. Ultimately it was your choice to carry out the hit in a very public space, greatly increasing the chance of you being killed after. Watching the clip, you run up to the individual and you can clearly see that Detective Martin Riggs is talking to the crowd, whether he was in uniform or not, it was clear that he was present. You also shoot in the direction he is standing, so it is a natural reaction of him to return fire, as he had assumed you were shooting at him or at the crowd of people. Valuing your life rules do play a factor in this situation as well, as this PK was done in a reckless way that left you vulnerable to return fire. The fault of this PK falls on the HC of your faction for not giving proper orders, and yourself for carrying out those orders in a public setting. You may not re-appeal this PK. Edited 3 hours ago by Boomroasted 1 1 Link to comment
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