Kane's PK Appeal.

[KraZKane]

Name of Character: Kane Maddox

SteamID: 76561198032089467

Your Discord ID#: kraz_kane

Date of PK: 07/13/2025

Reason for PK: Killed by cop.

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: How this whole thing went down it just feels like some NLR was broken. We killed all three guys, should've pked the one who didn't comply to the mugging. Shortly after there was noise in the bathroom, someone opened the window and came in, then gunfire and tazers went off. The house had the door kicked in and the officer (Garcia) shot me and killed me. The alley way next to the town house had shooting involved and then the officers kicked down the door. As soon as I see officer Garcia I was instantly gunned down. It felt a little fishy the way he snapped onto me. The person we were trying to mug and should've ended up dead, however there is a high chance the person who we mugged and killed called the cops on us using nlr information to fuck us over. More so, it's possible his two bodyguards broke nlr and tried to use meta information to bait the police into the situation. In a fashion that wasn't organic in nature. Officer Sebastian Garcia conducted himself unprofessionally in the admin sit showing there is a high potential bias against people in SOS.

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kGEaZz124JyzN60-R?invite=cr-MSxvRXMsMzQ0MzA1NDUw

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kGEfF9Myffoa4PayR?invite=cr-MSxmQUYsMzk5NzY5NjE0

 

[Bullets]

Hey buddy ol' pal! I was the cop who busted down your door and killed you, so for starters just because I am better than you at PVP doesn't mean I am hacking, I have 5000 hours on Gmod most of them were spent PVPing, secondly in the sit Byte checked for NLR and confirmed there was no foul play there and thirdly just because I was trolling you in the sit doesn't give you the pass on getting unpked

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kGEfi6gMJ51A3GD8_?invite=cr-MSxSZmssMTcxMDE5MDQ1

[Byte]

Hi, PKing admin here! So let us break this down piece by piece.

First, as you claimed in the sit and now here, you think NLR was broken. When you told me this during the sit, I investigated who had called the police. The person who had called the police was not in the townhouse at any point with you. They were one of the many bystanders you had outside of the house at the beginning of your conflict where you RDMd two people. They called the police with the exact phrasing being "/911 break in at TH1" and was placed just outside of the house, in the street between the lucky lady and the shop on the corner. (4604.403809,9168.859375,139.273941) This person was not anyone in the house that you killed, and they were even originally calling for the person who was noted from prop surfing trying to get into your bathroom window. Once the person was in the bathroom window, they opened fire on cops who were trying to detain them for breaking in. Now this is what leads into the interaction that led to your PK.

The officer who PK'd you was the officer shot at. Whether the guy in the bathroom was with you or not, this was never confirmed, it gave the officer every right to enter the house. When he did, you and your partners all opened fire on the officer starting the VCWP. You and one other eventually lost the gunfight. Your third killed the officer and escaped the scene. When reviewing the clip again, there is no clipping, there is very fluid tracking with the laser and tracers appear to be following the path they're supposed to be. I understand wanting to make every argue you can to save your character, but there is no proof of hacking to be found here.

So, due the fact there was no foul play in the 911 call, others had every right to enter the property, and there is no signs of hacking, you were PK'd for starting a VCWP. 

[MadVillainy]

I think NLR had to be broken very much here, upon viewing the clips, I saw that guy with the backwards cap and kutte on standing and hanging around that area right before the cops fired off their guns, I even radioed I see someone that shouldn't have a kutte on that has it on and describe that 4 way intersection by the townhouse close towards PD. The timeline of clips matches up with him or someone breaking NLR, and possibly making some noise by that town house bring attention to them in way that wouldn't happen in a IC way. I know for a fact I could have only saw the guy in the clip after he "died". It seems like he was intentonally hanging around that area to put some advantageous info that NLR should have 100% applied towards. The cops most likely would have never shown up if they didnt try to break NLR simple as that.

 

Edited 16 hours ago by MadVillainy

[KraZKane]

I was defending a home invasion, the officer started shooting first and I reacted. How is that considered me starting VCWP?

[Bullets]

12 minutes ago, KraZKane said:

I was defending a home invasion, the officer started shooting first and I reacted. How is that considered me starting VCWP?

Your buddies literally called out "Cop cop" at 1:20, you had your gun drawn on me, I responded.

Edited 15 hours ago by Bullets

[KraZKane]

I still feel like some meta info was given in order for you to break into the house. You killed the guy in the window, as far as you should have been concerned, the problem was eliminated. Why did you come into the house guns blazing when the guy shooting at you was downed. Furthermore, why was there a guy trying to "prop surf" into the building anyways? Sounds like it was someone who knew what was going on inside.

[Bullets]

2 hours ago, KraZKane said:

You killed the guy in the window

I actually didn’t, he jumped into the window and hid, so I ran inside to chase him.

Edited 3 hours ago by Bullets

[KraZKane]

Okay, regardless, this whole thing happened because someone called 911 for "prop surfing" an issue that should've been brought to an admin's attention, not the police. A ticket should've been made about it not a 911 call. Prop surfing is against server rules not the rp law, so it was out of rp for everything else that happened.