pk appeal

[Gent]

Name of Character: John Soprano

SteamID: 76561198316133872

Your Discord ID#: 453304483011887126

Date of PK: 4/22

Reason for PK: Died during raid? 

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: I never raided? I had keys, I walked in, I never went upstairs nor to any "special areas" we placed trash, we tried to leave they just stood there blocking us from leaving, then they killed aimed guns at us, killed my friend, so I shot them killed one then died? The Imperial safehouse was also never stated to me, it was only the "Jewish Bank". Also from my knowledge a faction leader needs to approve a raid on a property which did not happen so at most it would be RDM? And if I did raid to kill a "HIHG COMMAND MEMBER" which is the main point of a safehouse would Crocie also not be killed since he died?

TLDR:  I literally just unlocked the door, I mean I don't understand how that's considered a raid lol.
But anyway my main thing is they shot first, I had keys, didn't let us leave, didn't give us warnings to leaves, imperial being a safehouse was never communicated to me, "Raid" was never sanctioned, etc.

If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: uh long clip so i gotta stream 

Edited 13 hours ago by Gent

[Gent]

There was also no intent TO raid, or to KIll literally just drop trash, walk out, along with the faction I'm in information is mostly only told to Made+ but the thing is how can someone be PK'ed for a rule during this esclation that was never directly informed to them if this would be "classified" as a raid. Nobody ever told me ICly or through discord "Imperials a safehouse", nobody even told me what a safehouse is I had to find that vague information on my own as it wasn't posted anywhere that I could have access to.

 

Also CLip

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/k8QWOplLYNtb7mwtX?invite=cr-MSxBQ2csOTA3MjI4OA

[Jordan]

Dead nigga Gambino alert, nigga died like Elvis 

You walked into our property, which is a safehouse, started spawning trash and then punched a Lucchese HC when you told him to leave. All of this is indications of a raid, then your bozo asses got laid out like fresh concrete. You niggas sold so hard stay the fuck out of Imperial. Don't cry wolf when you literally break into the LARGEST factions safehouse and then get pasted. Just because you have keys, doesn't mean you can enter a building, IDK what line of mongoloid thinking that is, but it's retarded. Stay dead, RIP your bank account. You guys didn't do shit for a whole ass week and then your bum asses decided to go to our safehouse and got spread out like I did to your momma. Next time you dumbasses try to step on the gang, bring some heat and don't bring two bottom shotta ass niggas. You guys are lame as fuck, thanks for the gun racket, property, and drug rackets. Rest in piss Commission, you are just the first domino. Just because you had no intent to actually raid doesn't mean shit. We (UA) have lost like three raids because of staff telling us something we did was a raid, even though we had no intention of doing so. You fucked up, suck a binky or something and grow up. Take it on the chin, you guys can start another wop alliance in a year. When you raid, bring some of your guys who use cheats so you might get out alive next time. #DEADNIGGAGAMBINO #DEADNIGGACOMMISSION #FLAMINGOTURNINGINGRAVE #BETTERLUCKNEXTTIME

P.S. If you want to be on demon time, bring your A GAME. THIS SHIT AINT LITTLE LEAGUES! 

P.S.S. Just because your lame ass commission HC don't tell you shit (NOT A SURPISE, THEY PROBABLY WANTED YOU DEAD ANYWAYS) doesn't mean squat. You're literally a made man lil bro. Its no surprise your dog shit ass alliance is getting their shit curb stomped. 

Edited 11 hours ago by Jordan

[Gent]

Whole lotta yap, just a lotta yap. 

1. As stated I was never told this was a safehouse.

2. "All of this is indications of a raid" clearly were stretching for straws, you blocked the door preventing someone from leaving, we spawned ONE piece of trash after unlocking a door, after we attempted to leave you door-blocked and then they punched you not sure what indications of a raid we have here.

3. Having keys literally means you can enter a building.

4. Killed crocie, almost killed the second guy I think he bled out so 1v4, killed 2 in a small room with no where to run.

5. Uh, I'm not made? I'm just an associate so..

[Jordan]

"Guys look! I am just an assosciate!!! Even though I have 4 mil on my character I was never told this information!!!!" 

Just because your bum ass alliance can't communicate anything properly doesnt mean you can blissfully plead ignorance. 

WE TOLD OUR ASSOSCIATES IN OUR ALLIANCE THE RULES

I guess the only thing Commission knows how to communicate is how to snake each others factions

[Gent]

2 minutes ago, Jordan said:

"Guys look! I am just an assosciate!!! Even though I have 4 mil on my character I was never told this information!!!!" 

Just because your bum ass alliance can't communicate anything properly doesnt mean you can blissfully plead ignorance. 

WE TOLD OUR ASSOSCIATES IN OUR ALLIANCE THE RULES

I guess the only thing Commission knows how to communicate is how to snake each others factions

Erm! I had over 25 mill in cash, and items get it right pal!

 

And I'm saying why would it be a PK if I was never informed, like it's not just like faction-rules this should be a globally posted thing since it's related for peoples characters to be PK'ed.

[alfe]

8 hours ago, Gent said:

Erm! I had over 25 mill in cash, and items get it right pal!

 

And I'm saying why would it be a PK if I was never informed, like it's not just like faction-rules this should be a globally posted thing since it's related for peoples characters to be PK'ed.

To be fair, you probably should learn the rules of the conflict before you get involved. Just because YOU didn't take the time to research the rules, it ended with you being killed. Same way as someone lock-picking or being killed in a mugging and so on. They wont be un’pkd because those are the rules. 

[Marshal]

+1 - Having keys to the property implies that access was allowed, no doors were lock-picked and no one was threatened to open doors, how can that be classed as a raid? Furthermore Hades didn't start the confrontation and was merely defending himself when he died. I just don’t see how this could possibly be seen as a raid or how a PK is justifiable.