Ban Appeal EDIT: Turned into an apology

[Gean gaba]

Your Character or Steam Name: Conrad "Folk" Conelly

Your SteamID (Click to retrieve):76561199634477157

Your Discord ID#:deeznutz6644

Reason for ban: Violating Character rules, Transferring items between characters, Character Abuse 

Length of ban:Perma*

Reason for appeal (dispute/apology):EDIT: This is no longer a dispute but an apology and an explanation of my interpretation. I grinded fishing and trashcans for hours, oil, even had some luck gambling, and street trades. I then joined a crew (new to me never joined before) and the guys were super chill, they even gave a really nice starting bonus since I was so familiar with RP etiquette. The guy's account that I was trading with all of the stuff belonged to him, and I was waiting for him to get on so he could tell me if he wanted Oil or H as the trade for it (pretty sure he was at work) I was expecting him to be on within the hour. I was under the impression that you could share banks with extremely trusted individuals to do trades if we have conflicting schedules. I got 2 Pks from it and One didn't even have an interaction with any items other than his own and his own bank account and he also fished for quite some time and sold some fish to some people in china town, and then when he went fishing again a guy just ran up and tossed me 4.5k and said "I've been there before"

Why should you be unbanned? EDIT: [Since posting this, I have been made aware that I am wrong, and I apologize, if you decide to show me mercy and I can return at some point, I will reach out to an admin if I even think I'm getting remotely close to the lines that you guys draw, I flew way too close to the sun, and i was burned, I am sorry for my actions, and would appreciate some leniency to show you with my future actions that I will not make a mistake again. I would even be open to do a like "parole" situation where I'm not even allowed to make a crim char for a set period of time (up to your discretion obviously) .]  I didn't char abuse, I didn't "item transfer" It's the same thing that crews do as well. |Example: You have a buddy that you play with on a daily basis, you guys are constantly trading large amounts, sometimes your schedules conflict, this is a way that you can keep on going, and he keeps on going when he's able to hop on. |Example: Theres a crew trade coming up, you said that you would contribute X amount of C, you aren't able to get on, so you give bank perms to someone you trust to still put in your part. |Example: You have some rare items, and you want to make sure that they at least survive if you get Pkd due to a mugging or what have you, you give bank perms to a trusted individual, so the stuff stays around.| And of course this isn't to say that the "rare items" are to simply be given back to the player that got PKd upon arrival, it would be purchased at market value. In that same vein, that brings me to my next point, notice I had perms/access to a large portion of my chars old belongings, yet I didn't touch stuff that I knew I could not afford to trade or barter for at the moment, I simply was making a drug trade that fit our schedule.

Additional Information (images, videos, etc):https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/k3bte7G6f3PBwr5x9?invite=cr-MSxHbGosMzMyNjc5NDg5 Pardon how sad I sounded, I genuinely couldn't believe it because i was playing legit, or so I thought?

Edited April 9 by Gean gaba
Turn to apology instead of dispute, i was made aware that i was wrong.

[Bullets]

2 minutes ago, Gean gaba said:

4 weeks 2 Days

Its actually perma

[anzati1]

since its a perma, i can comment, you have a victim complex. own up to what you did, admit what you did wrong, and apologize properly rather than "im the victim once again"

[Zeus]

Hello, I was the administrator who banned you twice. 

You have been banned twice for item transfer before this, both blatant occurrences, when you get unbanned you decide to have your friend (who has been banned with you by Canadian in the past) To access your old bank accounts and give you a large amount of meth ALL of which were once in your old character's inventory. This isn't an instance of "one accidentally slipped in there" This is you taking ALL of your old drugs and transferring them to a new char - the literal definition of item transfer.  

 

[Gean gaba]

Just now, Zeus said:

Hello, I was the administrator who banned you twice. 

You have been banned twice for item transfer before this, both blatant occurrences, when you get unbanned you decide to have your friend (who has been banned with you by Canadian in the past) To access your old bank accounts and give you a large amount of meth ALL of which were once in your old character's inventory. This isn't an instance of "one accidentally slipped in there" This is you taking ALL of your old drugs and transferring them to a new char - the literal definition of item transfer.  

That was his property, and it was q I think, and I was going to let him choose if he wanted oil or H as trade. I was doing grinding bro, and like I said, you went to PK my other char when he didn't even do anything. 

 

 

[adam]

I extended it to permanent due to the reasons posted above by Zeus, you say you're not in the wrong and blame it on your life, and refuse to take any accountability. You clearly can't learn from your mistakes, and clearly the definite bans weren't enough, so I banned you indefinitely.

 

Please take this time to reflect on your actions as a whole, and learn the item transfer rules. 

[Gean gaba]

Just now, adam said:

I extended it to permanent due to the reasons posted above by Zeus, you say you're not in the wrong and blame it on your life, and refuse to take any accountability. You clearly can't learn from your mistakes, and clearly the definite bans weren't enough, so I banned you indefinitely.

 

Please take this time to reflect on your actions as a whole, and learn the item transfer rules. 

Bro what are you talking about I am not in the wrong this time and brought up nothing about my personal life, it seems like you guys are not looking at this objectively.

[Bullets]

2 minutes ago, Gean gaba said:

Bro what are you talking about I am not in the wrong this time and brought up nothing about my personal life, it seems like you guys are not looking at this objectively.

You clearly have no place on the server.

[Gean gaba]

8 minutes ago, anzati1 said:

since its a perma, i can comment, you have a victim complex. own up to what you did, admit what you did wrong, and apologize properly rather than "im the victim once again"

Thats the thing, I was legit this time, and they are hitting me with illegitimate rule breaks. I owned up on my last ones, this one, I'll stay right here on this hill.

[Gean gaba]

Just now, Bullets said:

You clearly have no place on the server.

Very odd thing to say.

[adam]

3 minutes ago, Gean gaba said:

Bro what are you talking about I am not in the wrong this time and brought up nothing about my personal life, it seems like you guys are not looking at this objectively.

Harry "strickland" Hill moved Methaqualone Powder (#20709918) from Gridinv[353311] to Harry "strickland" Hill's inventory (352289).           Conrad "Folk" Conelly tried 'take' on item 'Methaqualone Powder' (#20709918)   i didnt item transfer guys please unban me

[anzati1]

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Edited April 9 by anzati1

[Gean gaba]

Dude like I said, when harry died, that became his property, we were doing a trade. I grinded and he was going to get his choice of oil or H

[adam]

Just now, Gean gaba said:

Dude like I said, when harry died, that became his property, we were doing a trade. I grinded and he was going to get his choice of oil or H

no, you took an item that belonged to your old character lol

[Zeus]

4 minutes ago, Gean gaba said:

Dude like I said, when harry died, that became his property, we were doing a trade. I grinded and he was going to get his choice of oil or H

"when my old character died it became my friends property, it just so happened that he gave me all of it back on a new char!" 

We might want to look into adding an accountability perk in the Diverge store, this guy needs some. 

[Gean gaba]

1 minute ago, adam said:

no, you took an item that belonged to your old character lol

But the thing is, Harry was dead, that item that had that unique number could have 20 names on it if it exchanged hands enough times. As I said, When harry passed, that property became papa jews, i then was making a large trade while he was at work. We were both under the impression that it was a Kosher trade.

[Zeus]

4 minutes ago, Gean gaba said:

But the thing is, Harry was dead, that item that had that unique number could have 20 names on it if it exchanged hands enough times. As I said, When harry passed, that property became papa jews, i then was making a large trade while he was at work. We were both under the impression that it was a Kosher trade.

It exchanged hands 0 times (Other than you two). 

Edited April 9 by Zeus

[Bullets]

[Gean gaba]

1 minute ago, Zeus said:

It exchanged hands 0 times. 

It became Johnathan Pollards possessions when harry died. I was making a trade for his choice of Oil or H, his choice

[Gean gaba]

1 minute ago, Bullets said:

I don't understand why this is the angle you keep taking. 

[Gean gaba]

5 minutes ago, Zeus said:

It exchanged hands 0 times (Other than you two). 

good edit about the (besides you two) because that's the thing there, there was a transfer,it was a legit trade and as stated, he was getting his choice of oil or H

[xDutchCat]

You've clearly not learned from the 14d when I denied your appeal and after you probably paid for your unban cause you got unbanned by Pendred for the exact same reason. Clearly have no intent to play this server in the proper and fair way. Now I start to believe all these 'trauma dumping' forum messages were just for attention to make you blame those scenarios on your actions on our server. 

 

Transferring items over one to another character even if that characters dead for a year, it's still transfer. It wasn't a 'legit trade', clearly the same item id's so its the exact same item

Edited April 9 by xDutchCat

[Gean gaba]

1 minute ago, xDutchCat said:

You've clearly not learned from the 14d when I denied your appeal and after you probably paid for your unban cause you got unbanned by Pendred for the exact same reason. Clearly have no intent to play this server in the proper and fair way. Now I start to believe all these 'trauma dumping' forum messages were just for attention to make you blame those scenarios on your actions on our server. 

 

Transferring items over one to another character even if that characters dead for a year, it's still transfer. It wasn't a 'legit trade', clearly the same item id's so its the exact same item

Bro my personal life has nothing to do with this( It is rough at the moment but that besides the point here), I paid pen for an unban, because I was going to play legit, and I did, it was a legit trade with a good buddy, and I was waiting for him to get on and let me know if he wanted oil, or H or a mix of both. 

[Gean gaba]

8 hours ago, Zeus said:

"when my old character died it became my friends property, it just so happened that he gave me all of it back on a new char!" 

We might want to look into adding an accountability perk in the Diverge store, this guy needs some. 

You banned me for 3-4 rule breaks and were PKing 2 of my chars, you allege that Conrad was item transferring(which I have explained why it was not and item transfer but a legitimate trade) But let's say for the sake of your argument that Conrad was guilty of item transfer, that would not warrant two PKs and in my opinion wouldn't warrant a permanent ban. It really seems like you are looking for any reason to ban me, even if you have to stretch the truth. Had that Q been any other drug according to you guys on this thread, it would have been legit, but because at one point in time it belonged to my old char you're calling shenanigans on me. I have become familiar with the rules, I've been here for months and months, and after my last ban, I was not going to jeopardize my chars or my account, and as stated bank trades are Kosher and my buddy was happy to have anything that was faster than processing a load of Q, that's why I figured he may want oil to make it super quick or he would want H because at least it would involve less processing for him. I don't know why you guys think that I would do a blatant "item transfer" fresh off a $100 unban, I wouldn't risk that even for a month ban, and now it has turned into a permanent ban, I genuinely thought that would be a legit bank trade and had no reason to believe otherwise.

[handsome]

what if he just bought the drugs from his friend! +1