Ban Appeal

[Johnny]

Your Character or Steam Name:

Paulie Gio

Your SteamID (Click to retrieve):

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198030959012/

Your Discord ID#:

mahmoudobeh

Reason for ban:

RDM

Length of ban:

1 day

Reason for appeal (dispute/apology):

I do not believe my actions were random or without cause. The enforcer was issuing a direct threat of violence toward my friend, and I reacted in a defensive manner. This was not an unprovoked or random act of violence—it was a response to a clear escalation by the enforcer.

Why should you be unbanned?

At the time of the incident, my friend and I were in the process of declaring our departure from the faction. During this moment, the head enforcer of the faction was still asking my friend for his acquaintance’s name, despite the fact that we had already made it clear that we were leaving. My friend refused to provide the name, which led to the enforcer pulling out his gun and clearly stating, “This is the last order.”Given this context, the situation quickly escalated into a threat of violence, and I was concerned for my friend’s safety. I had my gun on safety at the time and had no intention to escalate things unnecessarily. However, seeing that my friend was being directly threatened with violence, I believed the situation had reached a point where it was necessary to protect him. I acted in character, trying to defend my friend, which unfortunately led to the situation being seen as RDM. Watch the clip below from my friends point of view. At minute 3:20 you can clearly hear that he threatens my friend by saying ¨This is your final order¨.

 

https://medal.tv/sv/games/garrys-mod/clips/k1pM7D5osG1SU3O35?invite=cr-MSxxcnAsMTYyMTY4ODQ4

[yummekoo]

Hi I'm the person that banned you for RDM. I updated your ban to 2 days due to the fact that you got 3 notes within just the span of a couple weeks.
Anyways he said "this is your last order" but he had no gun out. He then pulled his gun out because your friend probably said that he felt unsafe. It does look dumb but as me and the person reporting you demonstrated in the sit, having your gun on safety is a idle threat! Having your gun off of safety is a threat though. All of your notes in the short amount of time made it clear you don't understand what RDM is. As I said before you had 3 notes within a couple of weeks making it obvious that you needed a little time to learn what RDM is. 

[Dr. Hax]

41 minutes ago, yummekoo said:

Hi I'm the person that banned you for RDM. I updated your ban to 2 days due to the fact that you got 3 notes within just the span of a couple weeks.
Anyways he said "this is your last order" but he had no gun out. He then pulled his gun out because your friend probably said that he felt unsafe. It does look dumb but as me and the person reporting you demonstrated in the sit, having your gun on safety is a idle threat! Having your gun off of safety is a threat though. All of your notes in the short amount of time made it clear you don't understand what RDM is. As I said before you had 3 notes within a couple of weeks making it obvious that you needed a little time to learn what RDM is. 

He pulled out his gun because he said this is your last order and we weren't going give him what he wants. How can pulling out a firearm shortly after making such a threat be considered an idle threat? It doesn't matter if his gun was briefly on safety; the fact that he drew it after explicitly said that this is your last order made it clear that violence was imminent. We simply refused the order because we were leaving, there was nothing about "probably felt unsafe" before the draw, his last order was being disobeyed that's it. I think this is an undeserving ban because of the circumstance. It was an extremely tense situation and unfolded quite naturally. 

RDM = Random Deathmatch. Based on what is said above is this really RDM?

[Fox]

Having a gun on safety is considered an idle threat. The individual who was pressing you for your name did the right thing by escalating properly, his gun was on safety and he didn't point it at you. If he pointed it at you, then retaliation could have taken place. 

 

Secondly, the beginning of this clip is quite strange to me - there are three of you moving around without saying a word, if you're in a discord call - please refrain from this when you are unbanned. I also highly suggest amending your clipping software to make sure that your voice is captured. Whilst it doesn't really make a difference here, context can play a pretty important part in some situations.

I suggest you and your friend watch this video and read the rules on killing again. 

 

Your ban appeal has been reviewed and denied.

We have determined this ban to be reasonable and/or justified.

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Edited 7 hours ago by Fox