Ban Appeal Indexcicive

[Pearce]

Your Character or Steam Name: Indexcicive

Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): (STEAM_0:0:117683863)

Your Discord ID#: Indexcicive

Reason for ban: RDM x2 

Length of ban: 3 Weeks

Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): This situation has to be explained with context, so I will simplify it as much as possible. This encounter had started originally when my faction member informed me on radio that he was kidnapped in Ghetto Room 3 by "a biker gang member." Of course, I rushed into action to get my member out. OOCly I took note of the name of the person who owned the room 3 at the time, something with a "Jean Dr.Pierre" when I recall correctly. Police showed up and asked for a Dr. Pierre (whoever owned the door.) Within the vicinity, I heard that statement and heard Pierre say that he owned the door. Looking at his character, he wore the SOS jacket that carried the patches. Throughout this entire encounter, I was under the strong assumption that this was an affiliate with SOS, our allies, who was causing issues for our members such as kidnapping our guys. In my defense, I utilized the proper escalation; reasoning that someone wearing SOS colors and biker jacket, should be stopped because of that disturbance. As we fast forward, a Takahashi member whom I've had the name of, and of course vice versa, informed me that this Pierre also had one of his interns. In both of our interests, we chased down Pierre and demanded him to stop his vehicle for ten minutes straight. I shot his tires out and confronted Pierre at the Car Dealer, as we demanded Pierre to stop, Yokai (The Takahashi member I recognized), was ragdolled and picked up by the same person who fled with Pierre before they died. Yokai sent the shots off first, and I proceeded; mind you we aimed at their tires. The intention wasn't to kill and was to pop tires, it still killed Pierre who begun to flee and the person who picked up Yokai's ragdoll. (This is what the RDM x2 comes from.) 

 

In the sit, Byte pulled Yokai and I into the situation and asked why we were chasing Pierre down, to then we explained Pierre, someone wearing SOS colors and Biker Jacket, was causing issues with us that we had to stop. We explained we followed escalation appropriately. At first, without any questioning, Byte noted Yokai for RDM. Then he asked Yokai and I if we had each other's names, to which we did and displayed we recognized each other by saying each other's names. Byte then removed Yokai's RDM note, and kept me in the situation. Byte let go of Yokai, who was in the same situation as me. Instead, Byte tells me that I did all of this because Pierre is Patch (whom I had no idea it was Patch up until Byte informed me it was Patch.) Byte explained that Patch's voice was easily recognizable. I'm sorry but I've learned my mistake from Metagaming and intend not to do that again. Furthermore, I simply don't recognize Patch's voice or use bias to specifically targets people because they are in a different faction. It's odd however, when you take the ticket of your own faction, let go of someone who did the same actions as me (which we argue wasn't RDM), but give me the burden because you know I'm Pearce (for whatever reason.) None of that should have mattered in the first place, I simply tried to correct someone who we assumed was SOS because he was wearing SOS uniform, and my faction member informed me it was the biker gang who kidnapped him and had him locked in Ghetto Room 3. 

 

At the sit, I asked them to send me a clip of the RDM, and all they provided was a clip of me and Yokai chasing Pierre and the ragdoller person and shooting the tire out, but not killing them. 

Byte simply said "Well it shows in the logs Pearce so you're gonna take a vacation." And that was it. To me this isn't fair when I don't receive clear evidence as to why I'm being banned when I asked them directly for it, and all I was provided was "Here is a clip that doesn't show a death." And "The logs show it so you're banned." To me, this really isn't fair.

[Byte]

Before I inform the entire community of all of the holes, missing context, and lies you have told in the rest of your appeal, I will simply ask if you did the one thing I asked you to do before I banned you. First, did you watch the video that I sent to you over Discord DMs that explains how to properly escalate and what an active threat is? Second, if you did, please tell me how you properly escalate because you still claim to have properly escalated in this conflict.

[Pearce]

How was any of these lies? There is proof to all of this. My faction member being stuck in a room while informing me he is kidnapped by biker gang can be proven by the message in radio chat. 

Logs show. I watched your video, you havent sent me the RDM clip in the situation. You sent me a clip of me chasing and shooting a tire out. You took your faction member's ticket. Pierre is Patch, whom of which you told me that I had no idea about till the day of the sit. I gave a very detailed description as to what happened and it can be proven with logs. 

 

I don't have any intention to lie at all. I'm just saying exactly what happened. I have no history of lying, nor do I plan on creating that history if I want to continue to maintain a strong representation of myself in Diverge. 

[Byte]

Alright so you didn't watch the video, this is going to be a book. I gave you a chance for me to be really lenient in this appeal reply and you threw it out the window.

So, let's start at the very beginning. You say this all began when Pierre kidnapped your fellow faction member. You only know it is Pierre from what you admitted was OOC information of the name on the door. We aren't going to get into how you began this conflict with OOC information, we will just focus on what came after. You first, opened a ticket wanting to PK the Pierre character for kidnapping your friend. Someone who was never put under fearRP, was locked in a room, that he had full access to a phone for. He did eventually call the cops to come and doorkick him out. When these officers arrive, you use the information you gained from the door to then try and snitch on the Pierre character. When told no, you could not PK them, and the cop told you to leave and stop interrupting his investigation, you proceeded to follow them for almost twenty minutes around the city. At one point, they do pick you up after you get ran over by someone, and they take you into the casino. Once there, you and Yokai have a shootout. You kill them, and you admit, that was the end of that conflict / RP. You also, have a clip of this gun fight. This clip, you very interestingly, changed the name of after you needed to use it for evidence. Want to know what the original name of the clip was? "GambinoK." Posted below is the clip and it's title now, and a screenshot showing the original title in Discord where you shared it, before changing the name.

Clip

Screenshot

Now, I can easily answer to you why I knew it was you, Pearce. I am staff. On my staff character, I can see your steam name. Now, tell me, how did you know that you killed a Gambino, Patch, on an alternative character? Especially as, apparently I told you it was Patch, but that clip was made before you ever spoke to me and before I ever told you it was Patch. You changed the name of the clip to share it with me in the sit room.

This, brings us up to where a new conflict began. You and Yokai wanted to keep messing with Patch on his alt character. You may argue it is not targeting, but I will call you on your bullshit. You have a history of revenge RDM, metagame, and now blatantly lying about knowing who it is. So yes, you were targeting. You went up to a group of three SOS members, in front of the old Barzini Cigar lounge vacant shop. You and Yokai ask these three very clear actual SOS members, if the French guy running around in their jacket is one of theirs. They all three tell you that he is not, they do not know who he is, and to do what you want. You and Yokai say "bet", get back in your car, and leave. So, now I must ask, where do you get off telling me you were going after an allied faction who had a lower member messing with you after said faction told you he was not apart of them? Also another interesting question, when did SOS join the Underground Association? Pretty sure they aren't your allies so care to explain that to me or have your HC and theirs explain that to Canadian on how you guys magically have a larger than five member alliance? Also, Yokai isn't in your alliance either; weird, right?

Screenshot of alliances if anyone needs more information on this question.

This brings us up to where this infamous car chase began on completely false premises outside of you wanting to fuck with someone on an alternative character who has made your life a living hell on the server and just so conveniently that day your Don also happened to die. You are chasing them in a  white Subaru for almost 20 minutes. There happens to be another white Subaru driving around that has Yokai's intern. You two proceed to continue to chase and ram both of these white Subarus. At one point, Yokai's intern asks you, while alone in a different car, why you guys are doing this. Yokai tells you that is the wrong car and they are not in that car. So at this point, you know his intern is not with Patch and the other citizen. Explain to me, how you chasing that car now is assisting your "ally" in any way at all? This car chase continues and you eventually arrive at the turn behind the hospital and beside the PD. They (the white Subaru containing Patch and a citizen) crash into a fire hydrant. Your car crashed into a light pole beside them. You then get out of of your car and shoot an entire magazine into the back window. This takes me back to my original question. Did you watch the video on escalation and active threats? Not once did their vehicle ram you, run over you, or did they ever try to hit you or shoot you. After this you get back in your car and you find them at the car dealership. They respawn their car still actively ignoring you. You try to steal their car, run over your own "ally", the citizen then moves his ragdoll out from behind the car after you hit him, and puts him down, doesn't slam him, doesn't run away with him, turns around and puts him on the ground next to your car. You then get out of the car, they both get in and go to drive away, before Yokai shoots once, and stops, and you begin shooting fully automatic into the back window, again.

Now, you want to lie and say I showed you clips that only shows you chasing them, and then them dying. Well, I have the clips, genius. The first clip shows plenty of time before the shooting, 54 seconds before the shooting and the seconds right after the shooting. The second clip shows that you ran over your "ally", that you tried to mag dump the car again, and that you are the one that wanted to kill them.

First clip showing the complete lack of any knowledge of escalation when shooting that began.

Second clip of you continuing a conflict that was never started and RDMing them.

After this happened, they made a ticket for RDM after you had been trying to VDM them for almost 20 minutes. When this ticket came up, there was three staff members online. Myself, Bullets, and Nubs. Here in logs you can see I tried to get either of them to take it. Nubs was afk and I even char kicked Bullets twice just for him to ignore it. So yes, I took the ticket as the only active staff member. While taking your ticket, I was relaying all information to the only other active on Discord UA member for their input as I knew you would try and cry bias. I was transparent and I told you this in the sit but you clearly want to leave out key pieces of information. The other UA member had already also determined it to be RDM. When I brought the two of you, Yokai had little to no history of RDM at all. (Yokai's notes) That is why he was simply going to be noted and returned. Both you and Patch had asked for him to not be noted. So his note was removed and him returned. Now for you to try and turn that on me as targeting you must be some kind of joke. You were not noted and returned because you have a college textbook of POs for VDM, RDM, revenge RDM and metagame.(Your POs, POs, and bans. See how his is a single screenshot and yours has to be three?) Once Yokai was returned, you and Patch were making the sit completely inefficient with just trying to annoy each other. So Patch was comped and returned. Then it was just the two of us for almost thirty minutes where I tried to reason with you. Tell me, how does it take thirty minutes for me to say,

3 hours ago, Pearce said:

"Well it shows in the logs Pearce so you're gonna take a vacation."

Because that is not all that was said. In this sit, you yourself admitted that you started shooting at the end of the first clip. That you killed them in the second clip. That the conflict had ended at the casino almost an hour earlier. In the time that it was just the two of us in that sit room, i explained to you why I couldn't just note you and return you. You refuse to learn, you refuse to stop breaking the rules. I asked you to do one thing before you put up this appeal so that I could have a reason to be nice to you in this appeal. Instead, you choose to not do that, lie about the information you had on the situation, lie about why you were doing it, and no lie and try to slander my name in your appeal. 

If any other person had the history of notes and bans that you have, they would have been permanently banned. I worked with another member of UA and tried to be extra nice to you.

[Pearce]

27 minutes ago, Byte said:

So, let's start at the very beginning. You say this all began when Pierre kidnapped your fellow faction member. You only know it is Pierre from what you admitted was OOC information of the name on the door. We aren't going to get into how you began this conflict with OOC information, we will just focus on what came after.

I had no idea Pierre was Patch until you told me in the sit.  I heard the police officer ask "Who is Pierre" and Pierre responded with "I'm Pierre." 

 

28 minutes ago, Byte said:

You first, opened a ticket wanting to PK the Pierre character for kidnapping your friend.

I don't recall opening a ticket to PK Pierre. Please show where I made that ticket because I don't believe I did. There is no reason to. 

 

29 minutes ago, Byte said:

"GambinoK." Posted below is the clip and it's title now, and a screenshot showing the original title in Discord where you shared it, before changing the name.

Clip

Screenshot

I named it GambinoK after you told me that was Patch, and to be honest it's pretty funny how you are changing up what I said. I never sent you this clip in game, as you claim I did. Check the logs and copy the link. This is a blatant lie. This clip is public and widely available. Yes I changed the name, and I will check to see if I can show proof as to the log and time of changing. I don't find how that is relevant to you not providing me clips of my RDM. 

 

31 minutes ago, Byte said:

Now, tell me, how did you know that you killed a Gambino, Patch, on an alternative character? Especially as, apparently I told you it was Patch, but that clip was made before you ever spoke to me and before I ever told you it was Patch.

I posted the clip after I found out it was Patch, after you told me in the sit. I have NO WAY of knowing that was Patch until you told me in the sit that was Patch

 

33 minutes ago, Byte said:

You changed the name of the clip to share it with me in the sit room.

. I don't recognize his voice because we don't communicate at all. You still took the ticket of your own faction member and that doesn't change anything. You told me this was Patch and I put two and two together realizing this was a botched ban. In addition, I never sent you this video. Check the messages I sent in the game in LOOC or in chat. 

 

34 minutes ago, Byte said:

You and Yokai wanted to keep messing with Patch on his alt character.

We had no idea that was Patch until you brought us into a situation and directly told me that was Patch. Why else would we want to chase some random guy down? He caused issues, got us into shoot outs, had members locked in his room, of course he is gonna be met with hostility. You are trying to pose me as some bully who purposfully targeted Patch, when I don't even know the guy. 

 

36 minutes ago, Byte said:

You have a history of revenge RDM, metagame, and now blatantly lying about knowing who it is. So yes, you were targeting. You went up to a group of three SOS members, in front of the old Barzini Cigar lounge vacant shop. You and Yokai ask these three very clear actual SOS members, if the French guy running around in their jacket is one of theirs. They all three tell you that he is not, they do not know who he is, and to do what you want. You and Yokai say "bet", get back in your car, and leave.

Without a doubt I have a history of these notes. Just as how nuisanced this note is in addition to other notes I have received, this situation is a whole lot worse. You are just targeting me because I'm a Colombo main. We told those three SOS "ONE OF YOUR GUYS IS RUNNING AROUND CAUSING PROBLEMS." 

 

39 minutes ago, Byte said:

This brings us up to where this infamous car chase began on completely false premises outside of you wanting to fuck with someone on an alternative character who has made your life a living hell on the server and just so conveniently that day your Don also happened to die. You are chasing them in a  white Subaru for almost 20 minutes

Dude, I don't even know Patch. Please stop lying. I have had no idea that that was Patch's alt even until after you brought me into a situation and told me that was Patch, whereas I told you "Dude I didn't even know that was Patch."

 

42 minutes ago, Byte said:

shoot an entire magazine into the back window.

Notice in that clip how three or four bullets were shot and not a whole mag. His tire was popped. Again another lie. If I wanted to, I would have mag dumped an entire clip and he would have been dead. I used a Mac 11 and tend to use my mag dumping technique to kill someone. I use semi automatic for targeted shots, specifically in this situation to pop tires. Not to kill. 

 

47 minutes ago, Byte said:

and puts him on the ground next to your car. You then get out of the car, they both get in and go to drive away, before Yokai shoots once, and stops, and you begin shooting fully automatic into the back window, again.

Same situation. It was three shots. Another lie.

 

48 minutes ago, Byte said:

That is why he was simply going to be noted and returned.

You said in the sit you removed his note after asking Yokai what my name was. And we both demonstrated we knew each other's names.

 

50 minutes ago, Byte said:

inefficient with just trying to annoy each other. So Patch was comped and returned. Then it was just the two of us for almost thirty minutes where I tried to reason with you. Tell me, how does it take thirty minutes for me to say,

I wasn't being annoying for thirty minutes. I was explaining, on my end, that I had NO Idea that was Patch until after you told me. And I said this in the sit. After you told me that? It all made a lot of sense. I decided to make a clip of me killing Patch because, haha funny killing banter. But if I KNEW that was Patch, I would have made that really clear and apologized. I'll gather any extra evidence if I can, as at the moment I'm at work. I watched the video you sent me in dms again. I don't see where you are getting at with that, and you have no way of seeing if I watched the video or not. I just went onto my factions discord and found the video and rewatched it.

[Pearce]

I don't recognize Patch's voice, and frankly I don't really care. I don't understand why you are framing this as "I wanted to go out after patch and kill him" when I had no idea it was Patch in the first place. 

 

You didn't even post the RDM clip in the sit.