PK Appeal

[Rothschild]

Name of Character: Jacob Rothschild

SteamID: STEAM_0:0:861418935

Your Discord ID#: jusufovic

Date of PK: 16/3/25

Reason for PK: FearRP during Mug

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: The guy that mugged me on the clip was killed by me like 5 mins before that or even less. Didn't record at that time I stopped the medal I was about to get the shipments and go take a shower. And the guy came back asking me to buy oxy (same guy sold me the oxy) I told him 5k so he was a bit sketchy so we went behind the store where he tied me. So there's the point where I broke the fearrp on his screen his gun was on safety when he pulled it out, on my screen it was different because I am Eastern European my ping is like 250 or even more sometimes. He started tying me and I immediately ran away didn't even get to go through the door I was killed. If he pulled out a gun before and then he started tying me there's no chance I wouldn't see because of the ping. Btw please check and you'll see that I killed him with a shovel right like 10-15 meters outside the store. I got NLR warn just because I came back to a guy that killed me and I didn't do shit to him and it was more than 10-15 meters. As you can see on the clip he doesn't have his usual red shirt he wears he took that off just so I won't recognize him and report him for NLR he did that great btw he was just mad because I killed him after he killed my friend.

If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: This is His Clip you can see I started running only when he pulled out his gun and pointed it on my head literally same second. But on my screen it was much different. Next time he should pull out a gun first and then start tying. Or just not NLR.

 

Edited March 16 by Rothschild

[Z67H]

Hello Pk'ing admin here you were PK'd for running away mid mugging while they had a gun to you (clip)

while you say it was because of your ping i never got a clip of your pov when i asked for it in the sit before you were pk'd and you didn't provide it in this appeal 

under mugging Rules 
Rule 9 and 10 state 
 

9. There are several ways you may initiate a mugging, the following actions can be considered initiation of a mugging:
- Attempting to Zip tie someone [Does not apply if you BAIT people into tying you by saying they may or by stealing their items, therefore forcing them to tie you to retrieve them.]
10. When can you kill someone in a mugging for it to be considered a PK?
- You must FIRST, properly initiate a mugging (See Mugging Rule 9.)
- They attempt to flee while you have them at gunpoint/fear rp. (Does not apply if you disengage fear rp. See fear rp rules)

now onto the claim of the nlr the previous death of the mugger was around 6 minutes before the mugging yes and was by you, it wasn't in the same area his death was at the imperial/continental and the mugging took place at the back of the clothing store, i was never provided a clip of that death either nor any clip providing any backing to this claim the only thing i see is the log of his death before hand 

 

[Rothschild]

You never got a clip from me because I wasn't recording. This doesn't apply to him but it applies to me when I came back to a guy after he killed me (wasn't the same area still got warned)? I don't see the point tbh. You can literally see my ping in-game you have the abilities to check where I am from and see that my ping is trash so therefore it had a delay when he whipped the pistol out i only started running when he started tying me. Look even if I recorded you wouldn't see his death as you said it's 6 minutes but everyone records for like 3-4 minutes clips. Like usually before every time someone mugs me they pull out the gun first and then start tying me when they do that nobody has the problems. This time I was close to the door and bro started tying me up first and then pull out a pistol that was on safety (on my screen) so I ran away but you can see that I was injured like 1 tap was enough to kill me I didn't even get to go through the door. Just so you know that he was so pissed that I killed him he came back like 5 mins after. The NLR should still apply just like it applied to me when I came to a guy and I just said something to him. As it states in Life Rules "Do not loiter just outside the area and do not go seek the same players to create another situation." He obviously wanted to mug me to get his oxy back because I killed him even when I killed him he told me "Damn bro I sold you oxy now you kill me" So I just think that it's NLR and 2nd the trash ping I couldn't see a thing as him.

[James]

From looking into this PK there seems to be some NLR at play here, the mugger shouldn't be coming back to the same area and trying to interact with you after you killed them and in this case could be said that they are retaliating against your for killing them in the first place so this will be overturned.

Your appeal has been reviewed and accepted.

Your character has been reinstated and can be used again.