Tranny Hunter Pk Appeal

[Night]

Name of Character: Muerte "トラニーハンター" Lanzamiento

SteamID: 123368903457654323577432

Your Discord ID#: nightwolf4634

Date of PK: 2/18/2025

Reason for PK: Killed by cop with my firearm off safety 

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: Honestly it was just plain stupidity on my part i just didn't feel comfortable putting my hands out in surrendered mode in a crowded area when people were attempting to kill me while a officer was attempting to arrest me/id me so i ran and hide in a corner with my gun off safety to protect myself from when i got stabbed and then i got killed by the officer that hit my corner. I understand now i should of just put my hands out on surrendered to avoid this entire situation i just didn't want to get arrested for no reason when i was attempting to defend myself and when i had a valid fafl license but i've just had very toxic and bad situations with every officer in the years i've played on this server. i'm hoping i can be given just this one chance to learn from my mistakes on this char since i've had it for awhile and worked hard on it but i understand if this remains as a valid pk and i appreciate your time 

If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jJ2gjEUnIQTjrUr5T?invite=cr-MSxXS00sMTU4NjUzNjY3LA

[Night]

Also when were staff allowed to take there own pks?

 

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jJ3OZuGuW1Im4kMfA?invite=cr-MSxHUEcsMTU4NjUzNjY3LA

[Bullets]

Hello Night.

I am here to clear a few things, for starters yes I did take my own ticket for the PK because I was the only staff member online at the time, as shown in your clip around 1:24.
I couldn't simply wait for another staff member to take the ticket because it was late at night and everyone had logged off, so I got an opinion from @Jmoorsey over Discord and he said it was a valid PK.

Now with the whole point of acting in self-defense, the clip I have shows only YOU shooting your shotgun at a person, I couldn't have possibly heard the stabbing from where I was.  As I approached you I ordered you to put your hands up, for everyone's safety as you had a shotgun and could have simply pulled it out as I attempted to detain you.  I then chased you around for 30 seconds, as we arrived at the City Hall where you decided to enter one of the offices when you then set yourself up in a corner with your shotgun pointed at the door as I scanned the room through the window I saw you crouching with your weapon out ready to fire, I then open the door and a clown runs and you don't shoot, so I expect your gun to be down and away so I proceed to swing the corner to see you aiming the shotgun directly at me resulting in your death—my POV.

There was a little bit of desync between us so you didn't see me on your screen for the same amount of time I saw you, resulting in very few of my demands to come through properly over the mic. 
Regardless this could have all been avoided if you had complied with the demands I was giving you as an Officer.
 

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■ Breaking Fear RP while being detained by Police. If the police are detaining you for a crime and you break FEAR rp by pulling a weapon on them the NYPD are still within their right to react in self defense. This can and will be considered initiating a violent confrontation with police EVEN if you never managed to fire the weapon.

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 03:32 PM by Bullets

[Night]

1 hour ago, Bullets said:

Hello Night.

I am here to clear a few things, for starters yes I did take my own ticket for the PK because I was the only staff member online at the time, as shown in your clip around 1:24.
I couldn't simply wait for another staff member to take the ticket because it was late at night and everyone had logged off, so I got an opinion from @Jmoorsey over Discord and he said it was a valid PK.

Now with the whole point of acting in self-defense, the clip I have shows only YOU shooting your shotgun at a person, I couldn't have possibly heard the stabbing from where I was.  As I approached you I ordered you to put your hands up, for everyone's safety as you had a shotgun and could have simply pulled it out as I attempted to detain you.  I then chased you around for 30 seconds, as we arrived at the City Hall where you decided to enter one of the offices when you then set yourself up in a corner with your shotgun pointed at the door as I scanned the room through the window I saw you crouching with your weapon out ready to fire, I then open the door and a clown runs and you don't shoot, so I expect your gun to be down and away so I proceed to swing the corner to see you aiming the shotgun directly at me resulting in your death—my POV.

There was a little bit of desync between us so you didn't see me on your screen for the same amount of time I saw you, resulting in very few of my demands to come through properly over the mic. 
Regardless this could have all been avoided if you had complied with the demands I was giving you as an Officer.
 

 

 

Shotgun was never directly pointed at you or even fired towards you. my only target was the clown that attempted to kill me and then was helping you chase me. no commands were even given when i was inside the city hall room. you hit the corner and shot. please send a clip to show your side of the breach of the room to show anything that occurred.  if your able to message a other staff to ask for a second opinion they very much could of gotten on and taken the ticket and handled it themselves. there was no need for you to take action on your own as a staff member to switch from your cop char even late at night.  there's reasons why there are steamids/char ids and clips to provide to other staff so they could of handled this at anytime of the day

[KingJewMonaclu]

After a review of both clips, a couple points.

1. You very obviously were going to shoot that cop when he came in. You were getting chased and hid behind a door with a shotgun out and then even ignored the clown when he came in lol. This is starting a Violent Confrontation with police.

2. Whether or not the clown had attempted to kill you is irrelevant, dont pull a gun on police just because you think they're wrong.

3. Bullets taking his own PK ticket is fine, this is very obviously a PK, and there weren't even any other staff on at the time, and bullets reached out to another staff member for a second opinion just to make sure.

 

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied.

We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified.

You may not re-appeal this PK.