Christopher Deacello PK Appeal

[Lessrecoil]

Name of Character: Christopher Deacello

SteamID: STEAM_0:1:64159305

Your Discord ID#: lessrecoil

Date of PK: 1/14/25

Reason for PK: Literally zero idea

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: Loaded into the game after logging off for hours with zero substantial reason for a PK. Loaded in and within 10 seconds I am told that I need to follow someone to talk. With zero roleplay reason or lead up to this or any reason before I logged off to PK me, I am taken to the sewers (which I didnt even know was a PK area) and killed with zero explanation or talking. EDIT: I also re-reviewed the PK rules and found zero reason why I would be PKed. Especially considering I have only maybe done 1 thing that warranted a small talking to and didn't break any rules after said conversation. I can point out close to 10 reasons in the PK rules why I wouldn't be eligible. Would really like to highlight the lack of build-up or any type of conversation regarding anything I did wrong. Pretty new to the server but I read the rules and nothing in there lists a vaild reason for me to be PK active.

If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines:

Edited January 14 by Lessrecoil

[justcallmeryan]

Hi, I was the one who issued the orders for your pk, the reason behind it was brandishing an illegal scratched firearm in our business along with a general attitude of bringing heat to the family along with many suspicious events surrounding you and lockpicking of properties, all these reasons combined lead me to make the decision to set you active. 

[Falcon]

Hello, I was the one who took the PK ticket. 

 

You had Dons Orders placed on you for: "Bringing heat to the family's businesses by brandishing an illegal firearm in public as well as other crimes in public".

 

After discussing the reason with them I was also informed that you were caught lockpicking your own property's doors, being the hotel your company owns.

These led to one of the Don's trusted command to place orders on you to prevent further damage. When you join a crime family, read the prompt that comes up on your screen, you can be wacked without warning for breaking any family rules or making the family look bad, as well as other reasons. 

[Lessrecoil]

4 hours ago, justcallmeryan said:

Hi, I was the one who issued the orders for your pk, the reason behind it was brandishing an illegal scratched firearm in our business along with a general attitude of bringing heat to the family along with many suspicious events surrounding you and lockpicking of properties, all these reasons combined lead me to make the decision to set you active. 

"the reason behind it was brandishing an illegal scratched firearm in our business" This was the single incident I was speaking of. Please provide some proof or an example of something you know I did to warrant a PK besides the weapon that I handed over to the family before it caused any problems and took my punishment with grace. You didn't like the weapon? fine, I gave it to you and said I wouldn't do it again (which I didn't). That was the last time I did something even remotely worth correcting let alone PKing. It was my first offense and I did nothing afterward to warrant a PK. I just looked through the entirety of the Family Member Kills section and found not one valid reason you would have to PK me. Please feel free to quote some rules you think I broke as I will be quoting them as well momentarily.

 

4 hours ago, Falcon said:

Hello, I was the one who took the PK ticket. 

 

You had Dons Orders placed on you for: "Bringing heat to the family's businesses by brandishing an illegal firearm in public as well as other crimes in public".

 

After discussing the reason with them I was also informed that you were caught lockpicking your own property's doors, being the hotel your company owns.

These led to one of the Don's trusted command to place orders on you to prevent further damage. When you join a crime family, read the prompt that comes up on your screen, you can be wacked without warning for breaking any family rules or making the family look bad, as well as other reasons. 

"as well as other crimes in public" There is zero evidence I lock-picked anything at all . As well as crimes in public, I committed zero besides the aforementioned brandishing a firearm. That was first offense and the only single thing I could have done to warrant any repercussion. I would like to see the proof they have that it says the may need to provide for the PK please.

 

4 hours ago, Lessrecoil said:

"as well as other crimes in public" There is zero evidence I lock-picked anything at all (which I didn't and can be verified in logs as I walked through an opened and unlocked door). As well as crimes in public, I committed zero besides the aforementioned brandishing a firearm. That was first offense and the only single thing I could have done to warrant any repercussion. I would like to see the proof they have that it says the may need to provide for the PK please.

● General
You must be able to prove your claims to the Administrator, either by video/pictures or if an Administrator witnessed the reason itself.

○ If they’re in your family, they must have done something to directly harm the family, yourself, or another member of the family.

■ (Ex: Harm in a physical, or financial way. There has to be tangible damages)

■ The person in question, must have repeatedly done something to directly harm you, the family, or another member of the family. Unwarranted Harm in a financial (+7,500$) or repeated physical way, there has to be tangible damages, disrespect is not a reason to kill someone. This also means you cannot PK someone JUST for up one time. Having continued issues or warnings about behaviour or disputes can cause escalation to a PK. (Be sure to record all encounters/transgressions)

■ Actively betraying the gang.
● Examples: Intentionally ratting to the police, Intentionally setting the gang up to be attacked by rivals, or intentionally giving away gang secrets to a rival in an attempt to profit.

■ As a means of self-preservation
● If the member knowingly causes an issue with a larger gang, or other organized crime group, and you desire to avoid a war you may work it out with said rival gang or organized crime group to instead kill the cause of the strife. This is not an opportune reason, but it is a valid reason.
● If they have left the gang/family without approval from the leader, while holding the position of made man+ (or appropriate equivalent), they may be subject to a PK. Entry level associates who are not made or deeply committed to the organization may leave without harm as their position is low and they know very little. (Security, waiters, doormen, drivers, etc) <You will be asked to provide evidence of rank> This does not apply if they have partaken in criminal actions, drug manufacturing/murder/robbery/etc. (However these actions may have to be proven). Generally under most don's orders.
 

Here are a few of the rules you may be pushing for (Which by reading is obvious the PK is invalid) Please point out to me in any of the rule sections where I could be eligible for PK.

 

4 hours ago, justcallmeryan said:

general attitude of bringing heat to the family along with many suspicious events surrounding you

Please I am actually so curious as to what this means or what proof you have of this. I understand your faction is the largest one on the server and can probably get away with bullshit like this all the time but please this shit is so vague and unspecific its a joke.

Edited January 14 by Lessrecoil

[justcallmeryan]

Hi my friend, lets include the entire rule as well, this is the part that got you pked, additionally we did catch you lockpicking and I'm sure logs will back that up lol, lying bad ! 

[Falcon]

3 minutes ago, justcallmeryan said:

Hi my friend, lets include the entire rule as well, this is the part that got you pked, additionally we did catch you lockpicking and I'm sure logs will back that up lol, lying bad ! 

brought me here, to a locker in room G, in his own company's hotel (The Continental). He tried lockpicking the locker inside.

(Not replying to this thread anymore, the fact he lied in his reply is why I felt the need to post this.)

[Lessrecoil]

1 hour ago, justcallmeryan said:

Hi my friend, lets include the entire rule as well, this is the part that got you pked, additionally we did catch you lockpicking and I'm sure logs will back that up lol, lying bad ! 

LOL despite warnings? I had one meeting with someone and no other incidents afterwards. Not a single meeting or talk with anyone about the lockpicking thing. It really helps to have someone on staff in the faction huh lol. Good to see meta-gaming is allowed to warrant a PK. Not a single person near me or who saw me doing anything. Congrats on having majority of the active player-base in one faction so you can abuse the shit out of it. Great to see lol. 

 

1 hour ago, Falcon said:

brought me here, to a locker in room G, in his own company's hotel (The Continental). He tried lockpicking the locker inside.

(Not replying to this thread anymore, the fact he lied in his reply is why I felt the need to post this.)

It's crazy bc I feel like the person who made the PK active definitely didn't have this view of things...... Glad to have some proof that the only way it could be proven is by staff lol. Metagaming is a hell of a drug

[justcallmeryan]

You lied saying "logs will prove i never picklocked" then logs proved you wrong...

[Lessrecoil]

44 minutes ago, justcallmeryan said:

You lied saying "logs will prove i never picklocked" then logs proved you wrong...

No shit but that's like saying you have proof of any of the reasons you PKed me besides what staff can see lol...... A blatant lie.

 

43 minutes ago, Lessrecoil said:

No shit but that's like saying you have proof of any of the reasons you PKed me besides what staff can see lol...... A blatant lie.

The literal only thing you can prove that I did wrong was brandishing a firearm which was a one time offense I talked with a higher up about and it was resolved. Please give me anything you saw me do that would warrant a PK besides the incident with the firearm. I'm fine with leaving the family lol but a PK because you feel like it for no reason is insane. Need some more members in other factions or to prevent staff from being in factions this shit is pitiful.

 

41 minutes ago, Lessrecoil said:

The literal only thing you can prove that I did wrong was brandishing a firearm which was a one time offense I talked with a higher up about and it was resolved. Please give me anything you saw me do that would warrant a PK besides the incident with the firearm. I'm fine with leaving the family lol but a PK because you feel like it for no reason is insane. Need some more members in other factions or to prevent staff from being in factions this shit is pitiful.

Please by all means give me any evidence you obtained without staff and I will be glad to own up to it..... But you don't have any. Feel free to exercise the rights you have as the largest group on the server and abuse the PK system.

 

44 minutes ago, justcallmeryan said:

You lied saying "logs will prove i never picklocked" then logs proved you wrong...

Still waiting on literally anything you have as far as proof that you obtained to warrant a PK. Glad to see the staff have access to logs but still wondering how you would be able to warrant a PK with IC knowledge considering I did nothing in front of any family member besides the SINGLE incident I handled perfectly well.

 

REPLY: PLEASE POST TIMESTAMPS OF THE LOGS AND INCIDENTS MENTIONED SO YOU CAN SEE HOW RANDOM THE PK WAS. 

ZERO RP OR LEAD-UP TO THE PK AND ANY INCIDENT I WAS IN THE WRONG WITH THE FAMILY ENDED ON GOOD TERMS

LOGGED ON AND WITHIN SECONDS WITH NO RP WAS PKed 

Not replying until I can talk to a competent staff member who wasn't involved in the PK or isn't in the faction.... Not that I should have to ask for that smhLAST

Edited January 14 by Lessrecoil

[Lessrecoil]

Not trying to keep replying to this like a psychopath but trying to plead your case and defend yourself against a group of part-time mafia cyber neo-nazis who have the most pull in the server is a pretty difficult task when half of them don't know any of the story and just agree with whatever their higher up or friend in the group told them. I'm just trying to get as much as what I have to say out there as I'll most likely be dealing with many more people than just those who were actually involved or knew anything about the situation. If it isn't obvious I don't want to be a part of Lucchese. I would really just like to talk to someone not involved with them I could explain this to who could be unbiased and move on with my character without the drama that comes with being part of the mingiest faction on the server ( Didn't hear about Luccchese's reputation for minging and favoritism until I had already been recruited and just want to be done with this ). Or honestly even if the PK is upheld I really don't care at this point but if anything add some diversity to the factions as most all of them are greatly outnumbered by Lucchese and they can pretty much abuse the rules however they like given their status on the server.

Edited January 14 by Lessrecoil

[krokie]

You were PKed for 2 reasons, both of which occurred in a short period of time. 

• A long term made man vouching that you lockpicked inside of our own hotel
• Carrying and waving a firearm, with a scratched serial number and while not holding a license, around our most active property

First is obviously an issue and the second is blatantly against family rules, as well as just not being how we want/expect anyone in the faction to act. Especially at a property that is at times heavily observed by police, although I think that should go without saying considering you seem to understand the size of the faction. A large part of this life is keeping anything illegal that you do lowkey, out of the view of outsiders in order to prevent attention/heat being brought to the family.

These 2 things in such a short period of time led to one of the Don's trusted making the decision to whack you out of the faction. 

Here is the agreement you accept whenever joining a faction, warning of what may come.

 

 

Ultimately it just didn't work out and I wish you luck in whichever faction you end up staying in.

[Boomroasted]

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied.

We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified.

You may not re-appeal this PK.