Eddie "Big Nuts" Lizano

[Rizano]

Name of Character: Eddie "Big Nuts" Lizano

SteamID: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198367369589/

Your Discord ID#: .rizo

Date of PK: 1/12/

Reason for PK: mugged and shot

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated? Y

You may not mug in a public place, you can, however, pull a weapon on them and bring them to a secluded area to rob them (This can only be done when there is no one else around. EXAMPLE: The victim is alone at night in the middle of an empty street. You initiate a mugging with your firearm and take them to an alleyway so no one stumbles upon the crime.
 

You may not perform the mugging in the street, which is a public area.)

this whole secenario which is in the mugging rules is almost identical to my situation btw.

 Before I was being mugged by ix_crazy_xi and his friend, I was chilling with Banana Man, or better known as Whitey. We were walking down the tunnels towards the car dealership, and then these two pulled up in their car with their guns pulled out and then proceeded to say, “Put your hands up!” The funny thing is one of them died from their own car by either an explosion or some other thing. Right after this, I was shot by ix_crazy_xi, and he says it’s because “I didn’t put my hands up.” But I don't have a keyboard with F1-12 keys because it is only a 60% keyboard, so I just stood there and accepted the mug but was shot anyway. I didn’t move or make any aggressive actions towards him. This was crazy PK bait, and he knows it. This was not random and 100% targeted. I did not clip it because I believed, “No shot that ix_crazy_xi calls the ticket after his boy died." So I just got off. I get on tonight to find out I’m PKD. this also shows the same friend who died by his car came back to the spot to flick up.

Steam Community :: Rizo

 

this also shows the same friend who died by his car came back to the spot to flick up.

https://imgur.com/a/514x98f

 

 

Edited January 14 by Rizano

[Radium]

Yeah, this dude has been getting absolutely targeted from this server, man... I mean, yeah, he did metagame in the past, but that doesn't mean he's an asshole, just a guy with a hothead and poor decision-making. I see people disrespect him and look down on him because of his past, which is irrelevant because it's the 'past!' And recently he's been in a string of bad luck, like when he got caught evading the cops from a non-RP scenario when the dupes reset. Bro needs a break, and I think he deserves this non-PK because a lot of these things are not in his control.

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jthtmTsklYWjrBkki?invite=cr-MSxMYW8sMjIzOTgzNTk2LA

[Falcon]

Hi, I PK'd all 3 of you.

The commands given were valid, and whether or not you can put your hands up due to a 60% keyboard, you showed no regard for the mug, and even broke RP when one of the guys died due to a collision glitch. If I was in your shoes, I wouldn't of made a joke of the situation I'd be telling the mugger "I don't have F keys". Also, if you're playing on the server with a 60% keyboard, clearly you worked out how to open up your F1 inventory, F3 people, etc. Surely you can make one for putting your hands up so this doesn't happen again.

 

With a senior admin, we brought the muggers to a roof and gave them the choice; both of the people getting mugged get PK'd as well as the guy who died due to a glitch while initiating a mugging, or nobody gets PK'd. Obviously you can deduce by now, they chose to keep everyone PK'd. This is a rare offer as we can see that yes, the glitch death broke rp a bit, but in my eyes, it didn't need to break rp, you guys did that voluntarily, making me think you didn't care about the fact that you're in a PKable situation, making me believe this was pk worthy.

 

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jtJMsW5hJbDBCGEsg/Eu6ZVdV0jdIM?invite=cr-MSxnd1osMTk3MTkzNTEwLA

[Rizano]

i have my f1-f4 keys binded to my 123 and 4  keys 

 

 

Since now that I have seen the clip, it is very obvious they were in a call. They both got out at the same time without a word right after pulling up on us without looking around and telling each other at least a code word. which shows that this was planned to target me, so they could get me PKD, so this was never about mugging me; it was about murdering me, and they did it all inside of a VC.

[Haba]

for you to say you dont have the f1-f12 is cap because i also have a %60 you have to hold down FN then whatever the number is i think you just a little bit slow in the head my guy

[yunghayvo]

So as one of the people that mugged you, I did not go back on a new char.  We had made a ticket, and the bodies were spawned then craszy went back to grab evidence(casings) and we decided to take a picture (After 15 minutes of me dying).  I was then brought later (10 minutes) by admins telling me that even though I died to a bug it was we either all die or stay alive. It was also not a pk bait being that we were there to mug you not at all to kill you (We both had restraints).  Also, having a 60% keyboard is your fault knowing that is IC binds used with the Formula keys.

Edited January 14 by yunghayvo

[Rizano]

so you pulled up because what you thought my clothes were fancy. and you wanted em or was it the fact that your don told you to.  what was the motive? because there is no denying it was premeditated.

 

im going to bed crazy how admins gotta mug me now.

[WillyWhacker]

#FREERIZANO

[GlamourPunk]

haha

[Bear]

1 hour ago, yunghayvo said:

So as one of the people that mugged you, I did not go back on a new char.  We had made a ticket, and the bodies were spawned then craszy went back to grab evidence(casings) and we decided to take a picture (After 15 minutes of me dying).  I was then brought later (10 minutes) by admins telling me that even though I died to a bug it was we either all die or stay alive. It was also not a pk bait being that we were there to mug you not at all to kill you (We both had restraints).  Also, having a 60% keyboard is your fault knowing that is IC binds used with the Formula keys.

Not involved in the situation but you just outed yourself a bit buddy. If this was not premeditated then why would you guys choose to go for the pk? Seems like you and you're buddy made mugging chars for this situation 

[ix_crazy_xi]

1 hour ago, Bear said:

Not involved in the situation but you just outed yourself a bit buddy. If this was not premeditated then why would you guys choose to go for the pk? Seems like you and you're buddy made mugging chars for this situation 

Hello first of all, I would like to say that I and the other person involved who is a staff member has not made mugging chars it is my main currently and the other guy is also his main I have had this character for a couple of weeks and we didn't mug we were not going to mug we were instructed to by someone who is my boss ICLY .

[Rizano]

5 hours ago, ix_crazy_xi said:

Hello first of all, I would like to say that I and the other person involved who is a staff member has not made mugging chars it is my main currently and the other guy is also his main I have had this character for a couple of weeks and we didn't mug we were not going to mug we were instructed to by someone who is my boss ICLY .

8 hours ago, yunghayvo said:

So as one of the people that mugged you, I did not go back on a new char.  We had made a ticket, and the bodies were spawned then craszy went back to grab evidence(casings) and we decided to take a picture (After 15 minutes of me dying).  I was then brought later (10 minutes) by admins telling me that even though I died to a bug it was we either all die or stay alive. It was also not a pk bait being that we were there to mug you not at all to kill you (We both had restraints).  Also, having a 60% keyboard is your fault knowing that is IC binds used with the Formula keys.

Yet you thought your character was dying was worth it. You were givin a chance to not pk anyone including yourself but chose to pk yourself and me. This shows that you my freind are bullshiting. And the “plan” was to pray I retaliated so you could murder me. Kind of like what I did to get perma banned but I guess it’s ok scince your a staff member.

[Lessrecoil]

3 minutes ago, Rizano said:

 

Lol going through the same thing right now. Funny enough my PK was granted by the same staff member as you. Not involved but I'm definitely seeing that it's not just me dealing with staff who can PK you and be with the same faction that PKed you. Only thing that would make this worse is if it was the Lucchese family lol.

[Rizano]

Also this rule shows that this was fail mug. 
 

1. You may not mug in a public place, you can, however, pull a weapon on them and bring them to a secluded area to rob them (This can only be done when there is no one else around. EXAMPLE: The victim is alone at night in the middle of an empty street. You initiate a mugging with your firearm and take them to an alleyway so no one stumbles upon the crime.

 

 

1. You may not perform the mugging in the street, which is a public area.)

 

 

 

1. - You may only pull them a reasonable distance. Forcing them to follow you / pulling the victim long distances or crossing into public areas / streets is illogical and can be seen as fail mug. Your secluded location should not be more than a dozen meters away, within a reasonable distance.

 

I want both niggas involved to face the consequences

Edited January 14 by Rizano
Had to clarify

[ix_crazy_xi]

4 hours ago, Rizano said:

Also this rule shows that this was fail mug. 
 

1. You may not mug in a public place, you can, however, pull a weapon on them and bring them to a secluded area to rob them (This can only be done when there is no one else around. EXAMPLE: The victim is alone at night in the middle of an empty street. You initiate a mugging with your firearm and take them to an alleyway so no one stumbles upon the crime.

 

 

1. You may not perform the mugging in the street, which is a public area.)

 

 

 

1. - You may only pull them a reasonable distance. Forcing them to follow you / pulling the victim long distances or crossing into public areas / streets is illogical and can be seen as fail mug. Your secluded location should not be more than a dozen meters away, within a reasonable distance.

 

I want both niggas involved to face the consequences

well if u look more at the mugging map it is a yellow zone what we were going to do is tie you up and bring you to a red zone also we do care about those characters and we did not want to kill you we wanted to rob you not kill you but you would not put your hands up. 

[Rizano]

How would you have put me in the car if ya boy was dead and he owned the car it was fail mug the second he died what if I did put my hands up would you have dragged me to weed ally where there’s a Npc? Which is well over 12 meters

 

and scince when do you get to chose if it’s a pk or not I’ve never got that option and no one’s ever got that option I feel like the only reason it was presented is cuz one of the muggers was an administrator.

Edited January 14 by Rizano
Needed to clarify

[ix_crazy_xi]

19 minutes ago, Rizano said:

How would you have put me in the car if ya boy was dead and he owned the car it was fail mug the second he died what if I did put my hands up would you have dragged me to weed ally where there’s a Npc? Which is well over 12 meters

 

and scince when do you get to chose if it’s a pk or not I’ve never got that option and no one’s ever got that option I feel like the only reason it was presented is cuz one of the muggers was an administrator.

yeah so when he died u had more than enough time to put your hands up and you failed to do so, so I killed you both and got away. also, I will not be arguing with you like a child so if you please stop crying thanks. 

[MrlogicNova]

Rizo
aint no way your saying he broke rules when your don who died on his other char there asked me to help him metagame it 

Edited January 14 by MrlogicNova
rizo

[Rizano]

18 minutes ago, MrlogicNova said:

Rizo
aint no way your saying he broke rules when your don who died on his other char there asked me to help him metagame it 

Bringing up shit that has nothing to do with me cunt.

[Rizano]

28 minutes ago, ix_crazy_xi said:

yeah so when he died u had more than enough time to put your hands up and you failed to do so, so I killed you both and got away. also, I will not be arguing with you like a child so if you please stop crying thanks. 

Rules are rules guy read em next time and don’t forget you are a literal child

Edited January 14 by Rizano
Needs clarification

[Big Man]

I think bro needs to be un PKd, this seems unfair to him, after reviewing alot of evidence i have personally been given, it seems they where aiming for the PK, and were also likely meta-gaming.

with ZERO communication they both seemed to acknowledge they had the right targets by just pulling up on the street. it also seemed like they knew exactly where to look, but i dont have enough evidence to prior situations, this is what it looks like. 

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jtJMsW5hJbDBCGEsg/Y988tPpQkYJb?invite=cr-MSxnd1osMTk3MTkzNTEwLA

The rules regarding mugging also state adequate time must be given and that multiple commands must first be issued, according to the rules multipl,e, hastily said commands dont work.

the first "hands up" starts at 12 seconds and is constantly repeated, the mugger opens fire at 24 seconds, this is not enough reaction time to be fair, some people when something is repeated and yelled at them, tend to pause. and it is also a violation of the rule prior mentioned, which again requires multiple commands given, no?

i would also like to remark that this is most certainly an invalid mug location. it is openly public, and nowhere near a discreet location to finish the mugging (you can only walk people up to twelve meters im fairly certain)  at any second a passing-by driver could pass by and inform the police. or an officer themself could have happened by. this situation stinks of PK baiting.

[ix_crazy_xi]

46 minutes ago, Big Man said:

I think bro needs to be un PKd, this seems unfair to him, after reviewing alot of evidence i have personally been given, it seems they where aiming for the PK, and were also likely meta-gaming.

with ZERO communication they both seemed to acknowledge they had the right targets by just pulling up on the street. it also seemed like they knew exactly where to look, but i dont have enough evidence to prior situations, this is what it looks like. 

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jtJMsW5hJbDBCGEsg/Y988tPpQkYJb?invite=cr-MSxnd1osMTk3MTkzNTEwLA

The rules regarding mugging also state adequate time must be given and that multiple commands must first be issued, according to the rules multipl,e, hastily said commands dont work.

the first "hands up" starts at 12 seconds and is constantly repeated, the mugger opens fire at 24 seconds, this is not enough reaction time to be fair, some people when something is repeated and yelled at them, tend to pause. and it is also a violation of the rule prior mentioned, which again requires multiple commands given, no?

i would also like to remark that this is most certainly an invalid mug location. it is openly public, and nowhere near a discreet location to finish the mugging (you can only walk people up to twelve meters im fairly certain)  at any second a passing-by driver could pass by and inform the police. or an officer themself could have happened by. this situation stinks of PK baiting.

dont think you are involved with it and you are not staff either so if u please but out 

[Rizano]

12 minutes ago, ix_crazy_xi said:

dont think you are involved with it and you are not staff either so if u please but out 

funny how your freinds comment on my shi but when mine do you gaf lmao

[Big Man]

14 minutes ago, ix_crazy_xi said:

dont think you are involved with it and you are not staff either so if u please but out 

i find it intriguing that you don't even attempt to deny the accusation I have made, and instead are opting for removal of me from the situation.

 

i become involved when my close friends are affected negatively, as a friend I must help him succeed and shed light in his favor.

[Rizano]

29 minutes ago, ix_crazy_xi said:

dont think you are involved with it and you are not staff either so if u please but out 

interesting how your friends comment on my post, but when mine do, you actually get stubborn. He does bring up great points. As an ex-metagamer myself, I can spot metagaming from miles away. You both pulled up, not a word; you both sit in the car. definitely saying, "It's Big Nuts, the most chill person in town," in your little Discord call. You then probably gave each other a little countdown because both of you got out of the car at the same time. And already knew what the plan was, so unless you're telepathic and pulled up on me and thought, "Hmmmm, let's mug these guys at the same time." It's obvious you were both in a call.