Warning Appeal

[Fettuccine]

Steam Name: TwoOreosOneCup99

Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:127333062

Discord: TwoOreos99

Reason for Warn: "Attempt Meta-game"

Length of ban: N/A

Reason for appeal: A friend of mine asked the admins to bring me into his sit because I had a Medal clip of a PK he just requested. In the clip, you can hear brief audio of my friend saying something that not even the admins were able to interpret. I am an SGT in the PD faction and I like to chill in the OOC lounge in case new players in the force need help or don't understand how to fill out/file criminal complaints, Plea Deals, warrants, etc., or even have basic questions of their job in PD. The admins then told me that I "attempted to meta-game" just because they heard a sentence that they couldn't even interpret in the background of the clip that had no relevance to the in-game situation we were in and nothing that could benefit me in character from hearing it. They went on to explain that being in a Discord while playing your char is forbidden in general regardless of what is being said in Discord. They then told me I was getting banned for a week but after explaining the situation for about 10 minutes and giving multiple examples of how using the server's [DV-N] New York Police Department Discord can be used out of character and how the clip they watched had no relevance to the in-game situation we were in or benefited me in-character whatsoever; they eventually decided to give me an "attempted Meta-game warning".

Why I should get "unwarned": I don't believe that the warning was justified.

 

Clip of staff-sit and staff explaining how using the Server's PD discord and the "OOC Academy Channel" is still considered Meta-gaming regardless of training and other situations: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/iDUYoIDARgbeWNw3N/eekkdxSK99OP?invite=cr-MSxOZjcsMjQ3OTI3MTE3LA

 

 

Edited September 9 by Fettuccine

[Duetts]

Hello, so I was the staff member that warned you. I warned you because you and the other cop were sitting in a PD discord call after showing me a clip of the other cop saying, "If he hits me, I'm just" over discord I saw that as metagame because your friend was communicating over Discord to you about a situation in game. Yes, it wasn't super severe, but there's intent to metagame shown through the clip. I asked for the opinion of another staff member. Being Anzati, once he was there, he sat there and tried to explain how sitting in the discord call and saying anything about what was happening in game is against the rules. You then tried saying stuff about you sitting in the discord call to help new officers with making criminal complaints and plea deals, but that is something that you can do in game instead of over discord. Something to mention is that you already had a metagaming warning from the 1st of September.

 

Edited September 9 by Duetts

[Fettuccine]

I understand that what you think he said was considered "meta-gaming" and he was already warned for it. My biggest concern is why I get a warning for being inside a discord while SOMEONE ELSE is "Meta-gaming" and me not even acting on it nor using any information in character. You brought me into a sit to share a medal clip for a PK for another cop. You then hear another voice in the background of another person saying something to himself that wouldn't benefit anyone in character. You basically were going to ban me for just being in a discord at all. I was not the one meta-gaming nor was my voice heard in the clip. You and Azanti then proceed to plead your case explaining how even being in the PD pager or OOC Academy showing new players how to properly RP using their cop char is considered meta-gaming, as shown in the clip. You and Azanti basically gave me a warning for conspiracy... "Being Anzati, once he was there, he sat there and tried to explain how sitting in the discord call and saying anything about what was happening in game is against the rules." Yes that's right, this is the definition of meta-gaming, yet in the clip you watched I was NOT speaking. "he knows better, recently had a po, and still didn't point it out, attempt to stop him, or report whatsoever" -Anzati. So your argument is me having a PO that I wasn't even aware of in the first place and not "acting" on someone else saying something irrelevant to my in-game situation was going to issue me a week ban no less an "attempted meta-game" warning? I understand that your argument is me "attempting to meta-game" but what in the clip shows ME meta-gaming or attempting at all?
 

 If I did act in this conspiracy, what act or acts did I do to further the suspected metagame?

 

 

Edited September 10 by Fettuccine

[Canadian-bacon]

Very confused. So you were in a discord call where information about ingame information was being shared and did not insta deafen (as is standard) with a previous meta PO but they only warned you ? So this is a warn appeal.

 

@Fettuccine Do you have a clip of the actual situation, not the sit.

[Fettuccine]

I'm just trying to appeal to this warning that I don't completely understand just so that IF another instance like this occurs, I won't be instantly banned for a month. While yes, I agree that I should've deafened immediately before going into the RP situation I was in, I had no intent to meta-game and nor was I the person that gave any sort of information. That person was dealt with in the sit.

 

Edited September 10 by Fettuccine

[Mickey Lunestra]

Hey, I was apart of this situation and I just wanted clarify a few things. I was pulled into sit because i contacted staff about a PK that just happened at that time. I realized that I didn't have the clip to the PK so I asked Fettuccine if he had it. After being pulled into the sit and Fettuccine confirming that he had the Medal clip, the admin then pulled him as well. After several minutes of waiting, the admin then claimed that we were meta-gaming in discord. There were multiple people inside the PD call, some which weren't even on the server at the time. I then spouted over something in discord to myself not knowing that I wasn't muted even though what I said wasn't used in character. I took responsibility and accepted the meta-game warning. But what I don't understand is why Fettuccine received a warning even though HE was not speaking in discord at all during the event or used anything I said to benefit himself in character.

[anzati1]

On 9/10/2024 at 12:23 AM, Fettuccine said:

I'm just trying to appeal to this warning that I don't completely understand just so that IF another instance like this occurs, I won't be instantly banned for a month. While yes, I agree that I should've deafened immediately before going into the RP situation I was in, I had no intent to meta-game and nor was I the person that gave any sort of information. That person was dealt with in the sit.

 

Do you have the clip of the actual situation you were warned for? It'll help the people who are reviewing the appeal.

[Boomroasted]

Your ban appeal has been reviewed and denied.

We have determined this ban to be reasonable and/or justified. Any IC information even if it is a slight comment can constitute metagame according to rules. While I of all people can appreciate your willingness to be available to help new players on the NYPD discord, I would highly suggest to deafen when apart of any IC situation. A warning is justified in this scenario and by your reaction I assume you wont let this happen again. 

Ensure you have read our Server Rules.

Edited September 13 by Boomroasted