Pearce

I don't recognize Patch's voice, and frankly I don't really care. I don't understand why you are framing this as "I wanted to go out after patch and kill him" when I had no idea it was Patch in the first place.

I had no idea Pierre was Patch until you told me in the sit. I heard the police officer ask "Who is Pierre" and Pierre responded with "I'm Pierre." I don't recall opening a ticket to PK Pierre. Please show where I made that ticket because I don't believe I did. There is no reason to. I named it GambinoK after you told me that was Patch, and to be honest it's pretty funny how you are changing up what I said. I never sent you this clip in game, as you claim I did. Check the logs and copy the link. This is a blatant lie. This clip is public and widely available. Yes I changed the name, and I will check to see if I can show proof as to the log and time of changing. I don't find how that is relevant to you not providing me clips of my RDM. I posted the clip after I found out it was Patch, after you told me in the sit. I have NO WAY of knowing that was Patch until you told me in the sit that was Patch . I don't recognize his voice because we don't communicate at all. You still took the ticket of your own faction member and that doesn't change anything. You told me this was Patch and I put two and two together realizing this was a botched ban. In addition, I never sent you this video. Check the messages I sent in the game in LOOC or in chat. We had no idea that was Patch until you brought us into a situation and directly told me that was Patch. Why else would we want to chase some random guy down? He caused issues, got us into shoot outs, had members locked in his room, of course he is gonna be met with hostility. You are trying to pose me as some bully who purposfully targeted Patch, when I don't even know the guy. Without a doubt I have a history of these notes. Just as how nuisanced this note is in addition to other notes I have received, this situation is a whole lot worse. You are just targeting me because I'm a Colombo main. We told those three SOS "ONE OF YOUR GUYS IS RUNNING AROUND CAUSING PROBLEMS." Dude, I don't even know Patch. Please stop lying. I have had no idea that that was Patch's alt even until after you brought me into a situation and told me that was Patch, whereas I told you "Dude I didn't even know that was Patch." Notice in that clip how three or four bullets were shot and not a whole mag. His tire was popped. Again another lie. If I wanted to, I would have mag dumped an entire clip and he would have been dead. I used a Mac 11 and tend to use my mag dumping technique to kill someone. I use semi automatic for targeted shots, specifically in this situation to pop tires. Not to kill. Same situation. It was three shots. Another lie. You said in the sit you removed his note after asking Yokai what my name was. And we both demonstrated we knew each other's names. I wasn't being annoying for thirty minutes. I was explaining, on my end, that I had NO Idea that was Patch until after you told me. And I said this in the sit. After you told me that? It all made a lot of sense. I decided to make a clip of me killing Patch because, haha funny killing banter. But if I KNEW that was Patch, I would have made that really clear and apologized. I'll gather any extra evidence if I can, as at the moment I'm at work. I watched the video you sent me in dms again. I don't see where you are getting at with that, and you have no way of seeing if I watched the video or not. I just went onto my factions discord and found the video and rewatched it.

How was any of these lies? There is proof to all of this. My faction member being stuck in a room while informing me he is kidnapped by biker gang can be proven by the message in radio chat. Logs show. I watched your video, you havent sent me the RDM clip in the situation. You sent me a clip of me chasing and shooting a tire out. You took your faction member's ticket. Pierre is Patch, whom of which you told me that I had no idea about till the day of the sit. I gave a very detailed description as to what happened and it can be proven with logs.

Your Character or Steam Name: Indexcicive Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): (STEAM_0:0:117683863) Your Discord ID#: Indexcicive Reason for ban: RDM x2 Length of ban: 3 Weeks Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): This situation has to be explained with context, so I will simplify it as much as possible. This encounter had started originally when my faction member informed me on radio that he was kidnapped in Ghetto Room 3 by "a biker gang member." Of course, I rushed into action to get my member out. OOCly I took note of the name of the person who owned the room 3 at the time, something with a "Jean Dr.Pierre" when I recall correctly. Police showed up and asked for a Dr. Pierre (whoever owned the door.) Within the vicinity, I heard that statement and heard Pierre say that he owned the door. Looking at his character, he wore the SOS jacket that carried the patches. Throughout this entire encounter, I was under the strong assumption that this was an affiliate with SOS, our allies, who was causing issues for our members such as kidnapping our guys. In my defense, I utilized the proper escalation; reasoning that someone wearing SOS colors and biker jacket, should be stopped because of that disturbance. As we fast forward, a Takahashi member whom I've had the name of, and of course vice versa, informed me that this Pierre also had one of his interns. In both of our interests, we chased down Pierre and demanded him to stop his vehicle for ten minutes straight. I shot his tires out and confronted Pierre at the Car Dealer, as we demanded Pierre to stop, Yokai (The Takahashi member I recognized), was ragdolled and picked up by the same person who fled with Pierre before they died. Yokai sent the shots off first, and I proceeded; mind you we aimed at their tires. The intention wasn't to kill and was to pop tires, it still killed Pierre who begun to flee and the person who picked up Yokai's ragdoll. (This is what the RDM x2 comes from.) In the sit, Byte pulled Yokai and I into the situation and asked why we were chasing Pierre down, to then we explained Pierre, someone wearing SOS colors and Biker Jacket, was causing issues with us that we had to stop. We explained we followed escalation appropriately. At first, without any questioning, Byte noted Yokai for RDM. Then he asked Yokai and I if we had each other's names, to which we did and displayed we recognized each other by saying each other's names. Byte then removed Yokai's RDM note, and kept me in the situation. Byte let go of Yokai, who was in the same situation as me. Instead, Byte tells me that I did all of this because Pierre is Patch (whom I had no idea it was Patch up until Byte informed me it was Patch.) Byte explained that Patch's voice was easily recognizable. I'm sorry but I've learned my mistake from Metagaming and intend not to do that again. Furthermore, I simply don't recognize Patch's voice or use bias to specifically targets people because they are in a different faction. It's odd however, when you take the ticket of your own faction, let go of someone who did the same actions as me (which we argue wasn't RDM), but give me the burden because you know I'm Pearce (for whatever reason.) None of that should have mattered in the first place, I simply tried to correct someone who we assumed was SOS because he was wearing SOS uniform, and my faction member informed me it was the biker gang who kidnapped him and had him locked in Ghetto Room 3. At the sit, I asked them to send me a clip of the RDM, and all they provided was a clip of me and Yokai chasing Pierre and the ragdoller person and shooting the tire out, but not killing them. Byte simply said "Well it shows in the logs Pearce so you're gonna take a vacation." And that was it. To me this isn't fair when I don't receive clear evidence as to why I'm being banned when I asked them directly for it, and all I was provided was "Here is a clip that doesn't show a death." And "The logs show it so you're banned." To me, this really isn't fair.

Hi there admin, I killed the people because they hit the Irish with melees. That's why I fought back. There is a video I just saw on the player report and that shows their group hitting the Irish group with Melees.

Your length of ban was for 24s, or seconds. That isn't bad. If it was for longer, I would understand and say that you should be unbanned imo because this may have been your first offense. It looks like you didn't know. I would highly suggest you read the MOTD carefully too since negligence doesn't stop people from getting punished.

I want to add, there was a lot of mess in that situation regarding the people escalating and hitting. I remember very carefully giving people orders to leave the area. I didn't think this would be an issue, so I didn't take any clips of the situation. The way it went down was one person was told to leave, and they came back with a group of SOS people, I believe three or four. They pulled out nerf guns, and Lucky Lady Security Solutions demanded that they leave the area, given that the one person was already causing a commotion and was told to leave the general area. This was a person wearing a helmet and SOS uniform. Same description as to when he came back, and his voice easily recognizable. I can't remember who started meleeing, however it went to one of the Irish bar owners being hit, which from then, given our consecutive warnings, and given the situation turning lethal, we secured the situation. I want to re-iterate that I didn't just randomly pop out of nowhere.

Your Character or Steam Name: Indexcicive Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): (STEAM_0:0:117683863) Your Discord ID#: Indexcicive Reason for ban: RDM Length of ban: 5 Days Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): I recently had the opportunity to figure out why I was banned. I am sure some miscommunication occurred, so I am making this appeal right now. My faction has a company called "Lucky Lady Security Solutions", which is filed through as a business. We were hired to protect the Irish Property. What happened was that some bikers came over to the property and started hitting some of the property owners. The members did assault It led to a melee fight; multiple warnings were given for the group to leave the area. The SOS group members pulled out items such as toy guns, (which was ID'ed later before firing), and then melee weapons after. I understand that there is an importance of maintaining the server rules and ensuring a fair play. I have experienced these situations before and have tried to ensure I don't break these rules to a T; so this wasn't some random instance where I randomly showed up in the situation just because. In this situation, I didn't perceive this action as a violation, nor did I intend it to be at all. I was under the assumption that what I was doing was for the basis of defense; and that the defense we did was justified. I appreciate the time and consideration that you all would take in reviewing this appeal. Best regards, Indexcicive

Your Character or Steam Name: Indexcicive Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): (STEAM_0:0:117683863) Your Discord ID#: Indexcicive Reason for ban: RDM Po x9 Length of ban: 2 Weeks. Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): There was no rule broken. Dispute: If someone is loitering/following/harassing you you may give them warnings to leave you be, if they ignore several warnings and continue you may attack/kill them. (One warning will not suffice, multiple warnings in a very short time span will also not suffice, you have to give them time to react.) The context behind the situation: While driving around, I was approached by an individual with multiple firearms on their back. They placed their weapon on safety but hit my vehicle. Per the rules of the server, I issued several warnings for the individual to leave my vehicle alone, or to leave me alone, with my firearm also set on safety. The individual chose to stay near my vehicle, and ignored my repeated warnings. In line of the server rules. I determined that the player became a physical threat because he hit my vehicle with a firearm; this to me constituted a valid escalation to demand him to leave me alone, or leave my car alone. After three warnings, with no intent to leave, the individual was then gunned down. The reason for the ban was that it was RDM because I didn't give sufficient warns, and that the warnings were not "clear enough". The warnings were done by asking the said person with the firearm to leave, and is confronted with my firearm on safety. They placed their gun away, but they didn't leave, continuing to stay next to my car. Being given enough clear warnings to leave, and they didn't, they were gunned down. They reported it as RDM. Some of my previous warnings included the very specific situations like active/idle threats. When that was even utilized, as in one person becomes an active threat, and I acted in response to that active threat, I get warned. The rules are somehow not in my favor. It seems based on favoritism, dependent on who takes the sit. My previous PO's, I believe, are PO's that are extremely nuanced but still gave me RDM warns because of whatever reasons. In the beginning of my playtime, I definitely made mistakes. But by establishing my name in the server, I realized the stupid mistakes and worked past them. Any conflict or situation that has arisen were from *extremely* minute details like this one that gave me a warn, and a ban. I acknowledge that my mistakes were earlier phases of my time on this server. But these were since I started; these previous warnings have put my account in bad standing because of my misunderstanding of the rules in the beginning of the time I started playing. These previous POs paint a picture of carelessness-- however, I want to make clear that in more recent situations dealing with my warns, such as this exact one, these scenarios are far more nuanced than just intentional rule-breaking which I didn't intend to do in any way. Rather I followed the rules, and was banned for doing such. The warnings were given with the request to leave. There was more than adequate time given in these warnings. I get hit, and chose to ask them to leave with three clear warnings. They chose not to leave and died. Why should you be unbanned?: I firmly believe I didn't break any rule. I believe that if this rule was broken, even though I followed the rules, than this was an intentional mistake. This ban should be for people who are just low-quality players in general, but I didn't intend to break any rules in the first place. That's not in my nature to do so. This situation stemmed off of a more RP-based scene, and even after warnings were given, which were constituted under the basis that said persons became physical by hitting my vehicle (intent to harm), I stood my ground, and demanded them to leave. I aimed to contribute positively to the server by trying to be a high-quality roleplayer. (You can quite literally see the last few /me's I did were literally things like drinking coffee or roleplaying genuinely.) This situation was escalated because the individual ignored clear warnings and became a threat by hitting my vehicle with his gun. "Motions to leave is not sufficient enough to warn people." - Plixily Nothing in the rules restricts anyone from using motions to leave. The directive is: You are using an action to tell someone to leave, whereas such person understands your request, but chooses to ignore your request, *UNDERSTANDING* the consequences. The overall argument from the admin is the warning wasn't sufficient. What defines a warning insufficient is if it is unclear, or it was done in an extremely haste manner. These were timed warnings and warnings indicating clearly to other persons to leave. The rules don't specify how warnings should be given, like through text or through voice. That shouldn't be the problem at all, but apparently it is the problem in this sit. "Your actions requesting someone to leave weren't clear enough." Is their argument. **How?** My video shows me demanding said person to leave. Whereas; said persons stayed in place and loitered after being asked to leave with clear intent and instructions to leave. They were killed because they didn't leave after being asked multiple times to leave. Additional Information (images, videos, etc): https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jcUDbsJmWMBrTEdV5?invite=cr-MSxidnosNTMwMzE5NDQs https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jcUO7iPyBmFufpI4i?invite=cr-MSw1UWIsNTMwMzE5NDQs https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jcUQ73WGBEF6LnXSt?invite=cr-MSxmU0YsNTMwMzE5NDQs

+1. I believe his ban was long enough and should be given another chance. Having players banned who want to contribute back with improvement is something that should be considered highly.