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jimmyhands

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  1. What u posted isn't evidence it's rdm during a robbery. Hey i'm robbing u. "Huh" boom ur dead. PK. Should have rsponded in .4 seconds but u made the interaction last 1.2 seconds. PK. Ur on some totalitarian shit whit this one damn u lost my respect.
  2. Also what is this stupid shit where people have to post evidence of non-pk. The evidence ce of pk is supposed to be supported bt staff + PKing party. This is the server rules since February 2021 @xDutch do u nneed to ping Pendred and others or should I ffs
  3. Dont throw snowballs guys u might lose a character fair warning
  4. Jk I think this server should be about the feelings of random new admins and not server rules or protocol. I quit
  5. Also in ur own words the video isn't PKable so get another admin pinged on here. Thanks
  6. Ur a dick rider if you know you cant post the admin mediation vid and the logs
  7. I was not pked when I went to bed that night and manually logged off
  8. No my character is perma banned when I try to log on. Again 2nd admin opinion please. xDutchCat has conflict of interest
  9. Wait I have a good girl-voice. Come meet me and a crowd of 5 little Israel dudes over by the bank maybe your investigation can become more systematic. Jk love u guys jimmy hands out #deadforever
  10. Further investigation = talking to the little Israel mingers after hanging out with them all week you make me regret joining this server lol what a lame way for a 4.5 year vet to die /myid is literally 25xxx and u kill a dude for throwing snowballs. Shame on u @xDutchCat. Later guys I guess this is how Jimmy Hands dies. Throwing snowballs at christmas ️
  11. Please post the video of you talking to both of us. You clearly stated you couldn't tell who was minging (them) and told neither of us to react again. Then u spawned me back in little Israel where they killed me and the. Killed me again 3 times with guns near the hospital and car dealership. Your video of the encounter (as required by server ban/pk admin rules) plus the logs will very easily corroborate all claims made here by me. You would be helping your friends minge rp by not following server rules and protocol.
  12. Logs for proof of pk according to your own server rules. The logs will show that they killed me 30 times then lured me into an edited clip. Logs exist for this reason @xDutchCat. I know you are too new but read your own rules you are enforcing and the Logs will back up what you are acknowledging and failing to at the same time
  13. Was literally hanging g out with the dude that kept shooting a d hospital camping me. This isn't server rp so you dont have to act like "action never dies" and picked ur friends side when u know people goof off past midnight and I was snowballing people with snowballs and not damage-drawing weapons . Super gay honestly. I dont even want to pla y if I cant throw snowballs at mfs
  14. Also u can 100% be killed for not complying to a mugging under server rules but this was not that lol. Again. Video and logs. Little Israel power tripping and spawn camping a gut with 20 guns for throwing winter event snowballs past midnight and not shooting or punching a single person
  15. U also didnt pk me ubjust perma banned me jackass
  16. I've literally been on the server 3 years longer than you and u should take a break for staff lameness honestly for being so partial and not realizing your bias. I was throwing snowballs and got killed and hospital camped 30 times in the log. You told us both to knock it off and they killed me 5 more times despite only throwing snowballs and having weapons I could have shot them with. logs dont lie
  17. Also you spawned me back IN little Isreal where they shot me unprovoked again and then spawn camped me twice near the car dealer where I walked back over, took a clothes box and got killed and went to bed. Get real
  18. Hi, please get 2nd admin opinion. Dutch is partial and banned me for throwing snowballs and getting NLRDM'd 30 times for throwing snowballs at a crowd at night during holiday event and taking this way too seriously despite only throwing snowballs and not doing a single damaging attack. Please post logs and tell Dutch that throwing snowballs isn't minging during a winter event at midnight on Saturday night or a reason to kill a non violent guy 30 times then target mug him. Post logs he had a chance to tell the rdm'ing Jewish faction to quit spawn camping me in admin v 1v1 and failed to do so. Look at the logs. I was. Being hospital camped and this is ridiculous.
  19. Your Character or Steam Name: popple jhons (Jimmy Hands) Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): Your Discord ID#: .butface Reason for ban: unsure Length of ban: not stated Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): I don't understand the issue at hand but tried to log on and was banned by character Why should you be unbanned? well i don't know the issue at hand or why i was banned. Additional Information (images, videos, etc):
  20. If you read it, you would see that it is not. I manually changed the font size and did all bolds and italics/font enlargements/the 1 emoji added. The gaps are from copying and pasting between Microsoft Word and the forum text box which doesn't let you retroactively change the (px) in the text source. I get that your reply is funny but I just want an admin to consider the content of my case, not the paragraph spacing or me being shitty at forums.
  21. Just for grammar correction. I have proof read this and can assure you that the ideas are original and directly relevant to the situation at hand. I did't just rip a poorly prompted 1-shot response or something lol. I actually just talk a lot and have published scientific papers IRL, so sorry if I'm overly verbose here. I just wanted to be incredibly thorough and was proof reading this/fine editing between word doc and the text editor/poster here (the reason for the weird paragraph gaps in the HTML/CSS that I can't fix with the current tools and options and inability to edit the CSS paragraph formatting inherent in the forum). I wanted to be thorough to ensure that if my character is gonna die that it's perfectly fair. I think I made a pretty strong case for insufficient evidence and reason for admin authorization (with then new advances in my understanding of the context) which would essentially make this a mistrial. I see that it was hastily approved without sufficient report/documentation/evidence. I don't believe this was done maliciously, but that the newer/ lesser-experienced admin did not totally follow the protocol and contradicted a number of server rules and granted certain necessary criteria where it didn't exist (as i highlighted in the reply). It wasnt the guy who i thought killed me, it was even more unwarranted when i found out what it really was lmao EDIT: Sorry for the verbosity. Just trying to be thorough and make sure that the reply contained every detail that I wanted to state/thought is important and directly references relevant sections of diverge server rules. All bolding, italics, text enlargement or the little shrugging icon were all done manually by me for emphasis. I assure that the response is legitimate and would appreciate someone to consider the case being made.. Thank you for your time, C-b.
  22. Well with a bit more context, I don't believe you knowingly or immorally committed admin abuse. I do however believe at this time that you had insufficient evidence or reason to authorize the PK and were misinformed or misled by the member who ordered the HIT. Nothing personally against your competence or judgment. I just believe that you were misled and so you didn't have sufficient evidence to authorize. No big deal. I'll explain: I appreciate the response and opportunity to clarify, but I must respectfully and thoroughly dispute the validity of this PK. I was an original member of Sanzekai and, following that group’s disbandment, never joined, was never initiated into, nor invited by the faction Takahashi-Kai. After Sanzekai’s discord and faction closed, I was never added to or even contacted about the new group's discord, and thus have had zero communication with or knowledge of any new management, leadership, rules, or expectations. My only connection to Takahashi-Kai is an accidental technical placement—simply leftover from Sanzekai’s roster, not from any in-character recruitment or roleplay. The only possible way I can be in this faction is if Sanzekai's faction server file was recycled into an entirely new group (when it should have been demolished with Sanzekai's disband, starting a new faction from scratch). This, I believe to be a non-malicious server-side error that harmed my RP IC continuity. I have not been present for any meetings, have never visited the new faction’s locations, do not know their vendors or products, and have not been informed of any dues, obligations, or rules. It is impossible for me to be a “liability” to a group I have never even spoken to or been made aware of in any capacity. I have none of their info or "secrets". For further context, I once had a discord conversation during the closing stages of Sanzekai where new management brought up my inactivity, dues, and possible removal from the faction, as I was busy earning a doctorate in real life and couldn’t play much for a couple years. Rage and other high-ranking Sanzekai members told the new leaders that I was very busy IRL but was an original since spring 2021 and should be grandfathered in. They explicitly agreed to let me stay on the roster as an OG who only pops into town, with an understanding that I did not have the same tax requirements while inactive and that I was always welcomed back. I have only played 2 times briefly to reminisce and walk around town late at night for like 20-30 minutes since I noticed the map changed and I’m randomly in Takahashi-Kai, With Sanzekai gone and all those high-ranking members, including Rage, now gone as well, there is no fair IC continuity or expectation by which Takahashi could claim a legitimate PK reason against me. I do not know any current Takahashi management or have any connection to their operations. Another layer of complication is added where Diverge Networks does not have specific, detailed rules governing faction transitions or what happens when one faction dissolves and another takes over its infrastructure and member roster (consider this an opportunity to update/improve your server rules regarding faction disbands and transitions ). My search results online show various faction applications and one case where faction transfers caused technical "PK registration" issues, but no established protocol for member liability transfer from dissolved factions to successors. There are no rules requiring new leadership to honor previous agreements, notify members of faction changes, or establish how someone becomes officially "part of" a successor organization versus just being on an inherited roster. This regulatory gap actually strengthens my appeal argument because I cannot be held liable under faction rules I never agreed to, by leadership I never met, in an organization that I never officially joined due to the absence of proper succession protocols. Per the server rules, a valid PK must be based on “repeated… poor behaviour, misconduct, violation of your family rules or even blatant disrespect of made men in your organization… there has to be tangible damages, disrespecting someone once is not a reason to kill someone. This also means you cannot PK someone for mucking up JUST one time. Having continued issues or warnings about behaviour or disputes can cause escalation to a PK. (record the Warnings/encounters/transgressions need be (very important key evidence invalidating PK))” (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills). In my case, I have not received any warnings, and there is no documentation or record of repeated problematic behavior, damages, or disputes—because there have been none. My only absence was due to real-life reasons, openly discussed a year or so ago with previous leadership, and never addressed IC or OOC by anyone in Takahashi-Kai. I would like to see evidence (from he who ordered the hit) of old posts or records that indicate I was on their discord (Discord: .butface; I never was), or video/text/log evidence of warnings or attempt to rectify debt or liability (which should exist before the on-duty staff member approves a PK, so I expect they should be provided here in the report as the sole basis for evidence legitimizing the hit; there is none and that would be insufficient evidence at the very least making this a clear violation of DivergeNetworks PK rules and a mistrial). This guy is just a hater that I don’t know who was bored at 3am. Rules specify, “The order must be given in-game by the Don or trusted High Command member of the family… The person receiving the order must have the identity (f3) of whomever is giving the order, they need to know who their boss is, they can't receive an order from someone they don't know” (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills). I had no in-game interaction, no opportunity for dialogue, no warning, and never even received a basic introduction from any current leadership. I was presented with no RP opportunity to amend, clarify, or officially leave, nor was I told of taxes or obligations—because I was never made aware or added to the new group’s infrastructure at all. How can I be held accountable for rules, policies, or debts I was never told about by a management team I neither know nor recognize? I am not theirs to “discipline” or PK. If taxes or participation truly mattered, the Don could and, per the rules, should have reached out IC to clarify, offer a way to pay or leave, or set expectations before even considering a PK (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills). None of the classic, codified PK reasons—such as betrayal, snitching, repeated warnings, harm to the family, or disrupting RP continuity—apply in my case, nor are they documented. Instead, this action appears to be purely mechanical, rooted in auto-inheritance of Sanzekai records (server-side design/continuity error/non-optimal server file management), not in-character escalation, repeated damages, or any real dispute. The rules are clear that “a valid reason is required for all PK’s. A PK’s approval is entirely dependent on the reason given, if you give a weak reason such as ‘he disrespected me’ then your PK will not be approved” (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: General PK Rules). The policy is also clear about the “left faction” clause: it applies only if a made member actively leaves, is informed, and has a two-week window with a clear in-game reasoning and evidence; there must be RP continuity and sufficient cause (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills). I never received any communication IC or OOC offering a way to leave or clarify my position, and I did not even know that I was considered part of any “new” organization or was on any “list.” Additionally, the requirement is for “tangible damages, unwarranted harm in a financial (+10,000$) or repeated physical way,” not mere inactivity or tax owed when no opportunity to pay or even notification of dues was ever provided (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills). I was not actively participating, had no chance to respond, and the organization’s claim is based only on record-keeping rather than RP process. Bottom line: Punishing a character who did not join, was not inducted, never informed of expectations, and is accused of non-participation in a group he was never actually part of is fundamentally unfair—and strictly contrary to the letter and spirit of Diverge’s rules. There was no legitimate RP escalation, warning, or opportunity for me to amend or even understand any “liability.” If there is specific documentation of repeated harm or toxicity, please present it, as stipulated in the PK rules. Otherwise, this PK is baseless, rooted in poor faction and server management (no offense, not saying this angrily, only technically just as a responsible and fair business would run with standards and policies), purely technical inheritance, and not genuine character progression or IC realism. A bona fide PK must show documentation, RP engagement, clear reason, and an opportunity for the member to be involved in the resolution or removal, none of which were given here. I would actually like to request to see proof of liability, financial debt, or text,log, or video recorded evidence by the Don or high ranking members as an attempt to contact me and inform me of necessary work or debt IC. I think it's necessary evidence on the Don's part for PK and I know that it would not exist. I've only spent 45 minutes in town in the last year or so and was just about to try to start playing again and relearn the new locations and social networks/layouts of the server now that I have a little more stability and free-time IRL. If there is any actual record of warnings, damages, or in-character misconduct, They should be presented now, as your guidelines explicitly require. Otherwise, this PK is not valid under the codified Diverge Networks PK rules—specifically for family kills, liabilities, and faction transitions—and should respectfully be overturned. (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills; Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: General PK Rules.) This is why I respectfully request that the PK be overturned. If current management or the Don had any real concerns, they should have reached out IC with a clear chance for me to learn, pay, leave, or explain—just as would be expected in any well-run, fair RP environment. As it stands, this sets the wrong example for returning or inactive players and undermines faction and RP continuity on the server (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills; Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: General PK Rules). This also encourages dropout from a user-design perspective: I wanted to start playing the character again but given the nature of having to relearn the new map and social networks, I'm not likely to start a new character on this server (especially on a 5 year old character with a decent item bank and especially when the PK was controversial; I don't even feel like my character died in RP, just basically got uninformedly minged by a player with a little bit of faction power who I did not even know; like that would lowkey be gay AF and such a lame, unwarranted, uninformed sendoff to Jimmy Hands' lore.). Also, if witnesses exist or the crime is too public, the staff may not consider it a valid or realistic RP scenario, and it could affect appeal reviews (PK rules open to interpretation puts me in the center of a public park with like 12 people standing around). While this is open to interpretation and not inherently invalidating. There weren't even any LEOS online and I was eating noodles IRL at 3am, about to log off and go to bed. there were only like 18 people online... like come onnn -_- you and I both see that. If I legitimately died from in game actions and was aware of a situation/beef that could possibly PK me.. like that's fun and fair RP. I would not complain, and I have endured many of those attempts/threats. This seems heavily disputable and kind of mingy and confusing for the one receiving the PK (me; you can see in the video i didn't even react angrily or verbally when I got PK'd just pure confusion). You should know why when you die or at least have some ideas. This just kinda feels like a slap in the face to OG characters who have supported the server and helped foster the community in the early days who wish to re-enter town and aren't doing anything to get PK'd. They couldn't have even like picked me up, talked to me, told me i was in trouble/to prepare for death like in a cool way so that I could at least clip Jimmy-Hands' demise in execution style. This was all done wrong. I would encourage and appreciate multiple staff members to hear my reasoning and judge for themselves, perhaps to cross examine and give fair trial.
  23. Rules: You may only make one appeal per PK, if you are denied you will be unable to appeal for that character again. You must appeal within one week of your character being PK'd, appeals posted after this time will be automatically denied. You may only comment on an appeal if you were DIRECTLY involved with the situation leading up to the PK. Replies that are not relevant to the situation will result in a forum warning and/or ban. You must follow the provided template for the appeal, failure to do so will result in an instant denial. Name of Character: Jimmy Hands Character ID: 25xxx (can't remember the last 3) SteamID: 76561197994939042 Your Discord ID#: .butface Date of PK: 08:00:56 UTC - 04/09/2025 - You were killed by 145023 [145023] Reason for PK: none provided/admin abuse/ pk rdm by some form of admin approval. Video of RDM: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w39sUHhZUEyCF9b2NuzVGsLEFYlk8ESZ/view?usp=sharing Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: I should not be PK’d because there was no valid RP reason for my death; I was randomly approached and killed without escalation or justification, violating the server’s PK guidelines. The only interaction prior to the event was late night mutual shovel fights for fun between myself and a white shirt—this was not a serious conflict, criminal activity, or faction business. There was no faction involvement, escalation, or police heat tied to any of my actions. Additionally, I do remember having an OOC conversation with someone else earlier in an alleyway, but I clearly stated in voice that everything I was saying was out of character and even dropped my character voice to reminisce about the server in 2022 (OOC). If that conversation was used as a reason for the PK or involved in any way, I require video evidence of the full voice interaction, as I kept that entirely OOC and outside the bounds of roleplay. Also, that was not who killed me. A totally random character who I had never even spoken with killed me publicly. Video evidence also shows OOC communication being used to coordinate the PK, which is explicitly forbidden and should automatically invalidate the kill. I was AFK for over 15 minutes prior to the shooting, so any claim to an ongoing retroactive PK statute does not apply; by that time, all prior fighting had ended and no active RP scenario was relevant. Most importantly, the New Life Rule (NLR) dictates that after a character is killed and respawns (hospital revival), all participants must forget events, grudges, and knowledge leading up to the death—retaliation or PKs based on prior conflicts are strictly prohibited and invalid under server rules. If accusations to the contrary are made, I demand documented video or logs, as server rules require proof of a valid PK. Otherwise, this PK is clear admin abuse, RDM, or fail RP and my character deserves reinstatement. If I broke any rule unknown to me, I request explicit evidence and clarification; but as things stand, and per the server rules, this PK must be overturned. If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w39sUHhZUEyCF9b2NuzVGsLEFYlk8ESZ/view?usp=sharing
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